Which scratchie price points give the most play per ticket?
Good on ya for actually keeping notes, most punters just grumble and buy another slap π
I'm the same with my bankroll notes after a session, reckon the cheapies feel like better value because you get more tickets for the same spend, even if the top prizes sit lower. Curious whether anyone's tracked win frequency per price point rather than just gut feel π₯
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Total noob here but this makes sense to me π
same scratchies are sold right across the country as a national game, so I'd reckon the cheaper price points just let you have more slaps for the same A$ spend, which feels way better at the counter. Still learning how the prize odds actually shift between price points though. Cheers for the notes idea, might start jotting mine down too π
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More tickets for the same A$ spend feels better, sure, but the maths per dollar doesn't care how you slice it - every price point is built with a house edge baked in, so the cheapies just hide the loss across more slaps. I've done the newsagency counter thing myself and stopped bothering with notes after realising the running total only went one direction.
That said, if enjoyment per dollar is your metric, cheaper tickets probably do win. More scratching, more "maybe" moments before the bin. FreoDad's right about the top prizes though. Anyone claiming a price point is secretly better value should post their cashout receipt, otherwise it's just vibes. Believe it when the cheque clears, long-run it's still minus either way.
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FruitWin has it right - the maths per A$ is whatever the prize pool says it is, and Lott don't publish per-price-point returns so you're guessing blind. Cheapies do feel better, I'll grant that; I get through a whole coffee at the newsagency having a slap instead of blowing it in ten minutes. But feeling better and paying better are different things, and I'd want to see someone's actual cashout results before believing any price point is "the good one".
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Reckon the coffee test settles it for me π° cheapie at 50c a slap keeps me at the counter longer, and I cash out small wins instead of feeding the newsagency all arvo.
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More tickets for the same A$ spend feels better, sure, but the maths per dollar doesn't care how you slice it - every price point is built with a house edge baked in, so the cheapies just hide the loss across more slaps.β¦
@FruitWin lost in the fine print again π sure, the edge is baked in either way, but I'd rather lose my A$ ten slaps at a time with a coffee in hand than hand it over in one go and walk out looking like a mug. Cheapies are entertainment, not an investment - anyone buying scratchies expecting maths to save them is the real punchline π€‘πΈ
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@FruitWin lost in the fine print again π sure, the edge is baked in either way, but I'd rather lose my A$ ten slaps at a time with a coffee in hand than hand it over in one go and walk out looking like a mug. Cheapies arβ¦
@Ben_Win spot on mate, ten slaps with a coffee beats one big grab every time π I do the same before my Friday pokies session at the RSL, $2 scratchie and a long black. Last month one of those cheapies paid me A$40 and the whole counter copped the story π€
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Honestly the coffee test is dead on π that's exactly what I do, $2 ticket and a long black and I'm set for half an arvo. Scratchies feel more social than the pokies too, at least with the cheapies, got a hit for A$50 on a $2 one last Friday before my club session and the whole counter knew about it π€ The maths being baked in doesn't bother me, I'm there for the entertainment anyway. My question is the opposite though, does anyone actually rate the $10+ ones? Every time I've splashed on one of them it's been a dud ticket πΈ
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Honestly the coffee test is dead on π that's exactly what I do, $2 ticket and a long black and I'm set for half an arvo. Scratchies feel more social than the pokies too, at least with the cheapies, got a hit for A$50 on β¦
@BigWinGod that A$50 off a $2 cheapie sounds mint, well done π€ maybe I'm being dumb but is the coffee test just a way of making the loss sting less? Tried a $2 scratchie at the servo yesterday and it was dead in like a minute, so keen to hear how you stretch it out π
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@MaxBetLifeMode you're not being dumb at all, that's basically what the coffee test is, it stretches the experience, not the money. A $2 Instant Scratch-It has a fixed expected return regardless of how long it entertainsβ¦
@MaxBetLifeMode you're not dumb at all, that's exactly what it is. A $2 scratchie is dead the moment you've scratched it, the coffee is just window dressing for the same outcome. The expected return on an Instant Scratch-It is baked in at the printing stage, no ritual changes it.
ChrisFortune is right but let me add the part everyone skips: scratchies are about the worst return in the whole gambling menu. A pokie at the club at least ticks over for a while; a scratchie takes your A$2 in ten seconds and hands you nothing. If you're buying them for fun, fine, budget it like a coffee. But if anyone starts telling you the $5 or $10 ones are "better value" because of bigger prizes. Sure, bigger prizes, same minus on average. Luck happens, ChrisSpins' A$50 was luck. Ask him for a cashout-style proof next time, ticket photo minimum.
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@Brizzie_Mate sure the RTP is baked in, but entertainment is part of the return for me. Same with pokies, I budget for the session, not just the outcome π
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@Brizzie_Mate sure the RTP is baked in, but entertainment is part of the return for me. Same with pokies, I budget for the session, not just the outcome π
@MikeRoller same page here mate, the fun is part of the spend. I treat scratchies the same way I treat a pokie session, decide the amount before I walk in and that's it. Yesterday I put A$20 on the mid-price ones, budgeted bet per ticket at like two bucks a go, dragged it out near an hour and walked with A$12 back. Didn't hit anything but felt like I got my money's worth. That's the discipline lesson from my A$50 flush last week though, cashing out in time is everything, whether it's a scratchie win or a pokie hit. The cheapies are dead fast, so if you want play time the mid ones are the go in my book. πΈ
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@Brizzie_Mate sure the RTP is baked in, but entertainment is part of the return for me. Same with pokies, I budget for the session, not just the outcome π
MikeRoller you're spot on bro! It's the pure buzz of the reels that keeps you hooked on Lightning Link, gotta enjoy the ride every single time you sit down. I mean the potential for a massive win ngl is just sick, regardless of the math, just want to keep spinning ah well π₯π€π°
lol the coffee test is undefeated π I do the same scratchie ritual before my Friday pokies hit at the club, cheap $2 one with a long black. Got a A$50 whack off a cheapie a while back and nearly flipped the counter π€ anyone else reckon the $5 ones just die too fast tho?
@BigWinGod that A$50 off a $2 cheapie sounds mint, well done π€ maybe I'm being dumb but is the coffee test just a way of making the loss sting less? Tried a $2 scratchie at the servo yesterday and it was dead in like a mβ¦
@MaxBetLifeMode you're not being dumb at all, that's basically what the coffee test is, it stretches the experience, not the money. A $2 Instant Scratch-It has a fixed expected return regardless of how long it entertains you, so buying ten of them slowly with a coffee just buys you more scratching minutes for the same stake. The house edge per dollar doesn't shift either way.
The bit worth understanding on a small spin sample: scratchies are a fixed pool game, so the published odds per price point are set at print time, and hitting A$50 off a $2 cheapie like those blokes did is well inside normal variance, someone in every print run does. If fun-per-dollar is your measure, the low price points win easily; if you're chasing a meaningful hit, the $5 and $10 tickets carry the bigger top prizes but they'll eat a session fast. Personally I treat the $2 ones as entertainment with a lottery ticket attached, same as the lads at the counter do π
RTP is a long-run number.
MaxBetLifeMode honestly the coffee test just makes it fun, no shame in that π that A$50 cheapie I got had me buzzing for the whole Friday session π₯
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@Brizzie_Mate sure the RTP is baked in, but entertainment is part of the return for me. Same with pokies, I budget for the session, not just the outcome π
Itβs funny how much people put into the vibe of the session. But if the expected return on these Instant Scratch-Its is fixed, then deciding on the lowest bet per spin to maximise play count is just pure bankroll discipline. Spending more just stretches the commitment without changing the math on the overall return.
Bit different for scratchies though, once it's scratched the buzz is done in ten seconds. I just grab a couple of $5 ones on payday and hope. Hit big last night, A$60 ah well π
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