Tracking your local Dragon Link RTP over sessions, does anyone do it?
Had a similar thought after my last session on Autumn Moon at the local club, so this thread is right up my alley. The per-venue RTP thing is exactly why I stopped treating Dragon Link like one machine, two clubs five kays apart can feel like completely different games depending on how the state minimum was set and how tight the floor manager is.
The bit people overlook is the progressive side of it. The grand and major are shared across the bank, so when the meter is loaded your effective return is genuinely different from a fresh cycle. My habit now: I log the jackpot levels when I sit down, how long the session ran, and whether the feature (Hold & Spin or the free games) actually showed up. A few sessions of notes and you start to get a feel for whether your local is holding harder than the one down the road. Depends on the volatility too, you can't judge hold on three short sessions of a high-variance cabinet.
Volatility > vibes.
Turned twenty bucks into a couple hundred on Autumn Moon years back during a Friday night slap, but the trick was timing it after the grand had been climbing all week 😉 What gets me though mate, tracking a local properly takes months because the linkjackpot share swamps everything else in a single visit. Old Queen of the Nile days felt simpler honestly - one meter, no illusions.
I remember the old slots first-hand.
Wait, does the jackpot actually being high change your real return that much? 🤔 Maybe I'm being dumb but I always just sit down at Autumn Moon at the club whenever there's a seat, never thought about waiting for the grand to climb first. Wish I'd known that before I dropped my delivery pay in there last Friday 😅 cheers FreoDad, that helps!
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Total noob here 😅 but when yous say the grand "climbing all week", does a bigger jackpot meter actually mean better odds or just more money on the table? Still learning bonuses and all this 😄
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G'day Darwin, welcome aboard mate. The grand climbing doesn't change your odds of hitting it one bit, but because part of the RTP on Dragon Link is baked into that jackpot pool, a fatter meter means a bigger slice of your long-run return sits in the grand - so if it's been climbing all week like FreoDad said, your effective return is better than when it's freshly reset. Nothing you'll feel in one session mind you, I've busted plenty of banks sitting at a huge grand. Ah well, we grind on 😄
Stirring the pot a bit but I reckon some of yous are giving the grand way too much credit 😅 FreoDad had a hot night and now everyone's timing sessions off a jackpot meter like it's a science... I've sat on Autumn Moon when the grand was fat as anything and the machine still ate my A$50 like nothing. If it's been climbing all week? Chance would be a fine thing. Ah well, the Hold & Spin gets me every time anyway 🐉🔥
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Royal77's got a point but I'd tweak it slightly. The meter only matters if you treat the jackpot slice like part of your session budget. My rule on Dragon Link is dead simple: work out my bet per spin before I sit, set a loss figure, and the grand climbing is just scenery. Chased Autumn Moon when the grand was loaded earlier this month, got the Hold & Spin twice, didn't hit, walked at my stop. That's the discipline lesson right there, the fat meter didn't save me and it never will.
Where I do reckon it counts: if two clubs are five minutes apart and the base RTP might differ per venue, the one with the bigger pooled bank is arguably giving you a fatter long-run slice. But that's over hundreds of sessions, and yesterday's slap proves none of us gets the long run in one night 😭 Jackpot's a bonus, never a reason to sit.
500x one day, zero the next. Classic.
Nah yous are all overthinking it 😅 I've had my best night on Autumn Moon with the grand sitting skinny and got hammered when it was massive, so the meter tells you sweet nothing on a Friday. It's pokies, mate. Sometimes the feature just lands, sometimes it eats your A$50 in ten minutes and you go home 🐉🎭
TiltSurvivor's onto it, but I'd add the practical bit: I track my club's Autumn Moon across a month of sessions on my phone notes, A$2 a spin mostly, and the swings wash out to a pattern. The venue's tight on weekdays, pays when the club's busy. Chase the feature on a Friday arvo when the floor's full, keep the grand as scenery, and your session maths actually holds 😎🎰
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CasinoLadyLuck, every punter's phone notes somehow skip the losing weeks 🤡 The house's bankroll maths never loses long-run, yours just gets quieter. Mine's busted anyway 😏
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TiltSurvivor's onto it, but I'd add the practical bit: I track my club's Autumn Moon across a month of sessions on my phone notes, A$2 a spin mostly, and the swings wash out to a pattern. The venue's tight on weekdays, p…
@CasinoLadyLuck I do similar at my local RSL, A$2 spins on Autumn Moon, weeknight notes too. DeadSpinRegret's got a point though - only counts if you log the busted weeks. 😭💸
CasinoLadyLuck's got the right idea, I just make sure the busted weeks go in the notes too. Yesterday I dropped my A$50 limit fast at A$2 a spin and walked, bankroll discipline wins. 🔥😭
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"Pays when the club's busy", that's the old pattern myth dressed up in a spreadsheet. A few weeks of phone notes on one machine tells you nothing, Dragon Link swings hundreds of spins either way before the RTP matters. A…
@ChrisRTP logging the busts is the whole point, otherwise your notes are just a highlights reel. I've had sessions on Autumn Moon where the A$100 got eaten in maybe twenty spins and the walk-away rule saved me chasing it 🔥 Brizzie's right that a few weeks proves nothing though, Dragon Link swings are brutal short-term 😭
Bankroll discipline wins 💸
"Pays when the club's busy", that's the old pattern myth dressed up in a spreadsheet. A few weeks of phone notes on one machine tells you nothing, Dragon Link swings hundreds of spins either way before the RTP matters. Any of you got a cashout screenshot to go with those notes, or is it all buy-in tallies?
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
@Brizzie_Mate fair call but I don't track for the maths, I track so I don't chase 🤣 Autumn Moon smashed me at the RSL last Friday, walked before the A$100 went 🔥🎰
Backing my slot to the last spin.
@Brizzie_Mate fair call but I don't track for the maths, I track so I don't chase 🤣 Autumn Moon smashed me at the RSL last Friday, walked before the A$100 went 🔥🎰
@Freo_True walking before the A$100 went is the win there, everything else is noise. Tracking to stop chasing is fair enough, but don't fool yourself that your notes tell you anything about the machine, the hold and spin hits when it hits. Post a cashout screenshot of one of those jackpot wheels and I'll believe the hype.
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Half the blokes keeping "spreadsheets" would never post the weeks they got smashed 😂 Sure, log your sessions if it makes you feel organised, but the machine doesn't care about your notes, mate. Guaranteed minus long-run whichever way you slice it. Bet ChrisRTP's screenshots only show the good Fridays 🤡💸
@ChrisRTP logging the busts is the whole point, otherwise your notes are just a highlights reel. I've had sessions on Autumn Moon where the A$100 got eaten in maybe twenty spins and the walk-away rule saved me chasing it…
@RideTheVarianceTillIWin of course I post the smashed weeks, my Autumn Moon notes got enough red in em 😂 notes don't change the machine but they stop me chasing on tilt 🔥
@MaxBetLifeEveryday nah the red-note honesty is fair dinkum, half these threads are everyone bragging about their one big hold and spin 😂 I gave Autumn Moon a go after my Lightning Link sesh went cold and it cleaned me out quick, but when that orb hits… ah well, I'll be back Friday anyway 🔥🎰
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Honestly the anti-chase reason is the only tracking that makes sense to me 😂 I gave Autumn Moon a spin at the club after my Lightning Link sesh went cold and it chewed A$60 before I blinked, no bonus in sight 🥲 Still love the Dragon Link hold and spin though, when that jackpot wheel hits it's unreal 💰🎰 do you blokes reckon the grand vs mini frequency feels different on Autumn Moon or is that just me?
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Honestly the anti-chase reason is the only tracking that makes sense to me 😂 I gave Autumn Moon a spin at the club after my Lightning Link sesh went cold and it chewed A$60 before I blinked, no bonus in sight 🥲 Still lov…
@SpinToWin_Club haha A$60 before you blinked sounds about right for Autumn Moon, she's got a bite on her 😂 I do the same thing. Jot down how I walked out of each Friday sesh at the club, purely so I know when I'm chasing. Last few visits to the local I had one ripper hold and spin on Dragon Link that paid for the whole night, and I'll be honest, I chase that feeling a bit 🤑🤑 So the little note in my phone keeps me from tipping more in going "just one more orb" 🥲
FruitWin's right though that the notes won't tell you anything about the machine itself, they only tell on YOU 🤣 Still reckon it's worth doing. Anyone else track how long the bonus droughts go before you get that wheel? 🔥🎰💰
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@SpinToWin_Club haha A$60 before you blinked sounds about right for Autumn Moon, she's got a bite on her 😂 I do the same thing. Jot down how I walked out of each Friday sesh at the club, purely so I know when I'm chasing…
@GeelongLegend48 "jot down how I walked out" is a funny way of describing a list of losses 😂 But nah that's actually the only useful note, walking point matters more than the orb you nearly got. Everyone else in here is tracking their wins like they'll add up to something - so where's the profit, lads? 🤡💸
Show me the withdrawal first 😏
Autumn Moon is the one that's got me proper hooked at the moment, tracking or not 😂
FruitWin's right that the notes tell you nothing about the machine - she pays when she pays, I've had nights where the hold and spin hits within ten bucks of sitting down, other Fridays it just eats my A$100 in silence. But honestly I still like jotting it down, less for the pokie's benefit and more so I can't lie to myself later about "how the sesh went". The walking point thing is real though, SpinToWin nailed it, knowing when to walk matters way more than the orb you nearly snagged.
And HobartNorth, same, Lightning Link cold streak dragged me over to Autumn Moon too lol. When that orb finally lands it's ALL CAPS time 🔥🎰 ah well, Friday's coming anyway
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Nah I gave up on notes after a month, Autumn Moon don't care about your spreadsheet 😂 she either smacks you with the orb in the first ten minutes or eats the lot while you sit there like a mug. Friday sesh at mine was cold all night then the hold and spin finally hit and suddenly I'm up for the arvo. That's all the "tracking" I need tbh 🤑🎰
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Autumn Moon owes me nothing and she knows it 😂 stopped tracking months ago, some Fridays the orb just lands first spin and I'm up before my drink arrives 🎰
I tracked mine for a couple of months on Autumn Moon and gave it away too — every entry basically read "orbs, no orb" 😭 Only thing worth noting is the walking point. Cleared a club bonus run once where I'd budgeted A$150 and hit the hold and spin early, banked it, walked before she could give it back. Timing the exit beats the spreadsheet every session 🎰🔥
I tracked mine for a couple of months on Autumn Moon and gave it away too — every entry basically read "orbs, no orb" 😭 Only thing worth noting is the walking point. Cleared a club bonus run once where I'd budgeted A$150…
@Gramps_AllDay walking point is the real stat ngl 😂 I stuck it out one Friday on Autumn Moon, down to my last twenty and the orb landed. A$1,200 up and grinning like a fool 🤑🔥
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@BigWinGod A$1,200 up, sure 😏 did you actually withdraw it or feed it straight back into Autumn Moon like the rest of them? Ask me how I know 💸
The only honest spreadsheet entry for Autumn Moon is how much went in the slot. I stopped bothering, one night's A$50 never tells you anything about the long run.
RTP doesn't lie, win screenshots do.
BigWinGod that last twenty orb story is exactly why I keep feeding Autumn Moon 😂 I gave up on tracking too, spreadsheets kill the vibe anyway. Every Friday at the club it's either orbs everywhere or she's frozen solid, ah well, still my all-time favourite 🎰🔥
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Who tracks RTP on a pokie 😂 Autumn Moon owes me nothing, she paid for my shout the night the orbs stacked up. Feeding it back half the time tho, guilty 🤑🔥
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JackpotGirl asking the real question 😂 I've done both with Autumn Moon wins, fed it back chasing orbs and walked out with nothing, and banked a 500x and cashed out the same night. Tracking RTP? Nah, I just set a loss limit before I sit down, hit it and I'm gone. Cold maths beats a spreadsheet you'll never fill in properly anyway 🎰💸
Bankroll discipline wins 💸
BigWinGod that last twenty orb story is exactly why I keep feeding Autumn Moon 😂 I gave up on tracking too, spreadsheets kill the vibe anyway. Every Friday at the club it's either orbs everywhere or she's frozen solid, a…
@MikeRoller that loss limit thing is the smartest thing said in this whole thread 😂 I'm a hopeless case tho, walked into the club one Friday down to my last twenty on Autumn Moon and then the orbs stacked up and paid for the whole night. If I'd set a limit I'd have been home before the good bit even started 💰🔥
Tracking RTP is way too much like homework for me, the whole point of Dragon Link is the chaos. I just know when she's cold and when she's singing, gut feeling only 🎰🤑
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