Autumn Moon vs the rest of the Dragon Link cabinet
Funny you say that, Autumn Moon feels the same to me, the Hold & Spin seems to trigger heaps more often but the orb pays are skinny compared to the other Dragon Link titles. Worth remembering the RTP isn't one fixed number on these Aristocrat cabinets either; each venue sets it within the state minimum, so the same pokie can feel completely different at the club versus the casino. 📊
RTP is a long-run number.
chris you're spot on, autumn moon teases you with the hold & spin every second spin at the club but the orbs come up limes, had a slap last week and filled the screen with nothing but small change 😄 thing to remember with dragon link is the venue sets the rtp within the state minimum, so the same cabinet can play tighter at the pub than the casino, worth comparing. ah well, we grind on.
Reckon it's the same at my local too, holds like crazy but the orbs are crumbs 😅 might explain why the club version feels tighter than the casino one eh 🐉
Reckon it's the same at my local too, holds like crazy but the orbs are crumbs 😅 might explain why the club version feels tighter than the casino one eh 🐉
Tighter at the club than the casino? That's just the venue dialing the RTP wherever it's allowed to sit, Chris - same cabinet, different maths depending whose carpet you're on. And all this "hits more often but pays smaller" talk… every Dragon Link title does the orb dance before it hands you limes, that's the whole con 😏 Your bank still copped the guaranteed minus long-run either way, didn't it 🤡💸
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Something I keep in the notes: with more frequent Hold & Spin triggers the orbs have to fund themselves more often, so the average orb pay drops - that alone makes Autumn Moon feel "tighter" even on identical RTP settings. Add in that the club down the road might be running a lower configuration than the casino, and the same session at two venues can feel like two different pokies entirely. 📊
Volatility > vibes.
Deadspin I'd push back a bit mate, played Autumn Moon at two different clubs and the orb pays felt just as skinny on both, hard to blame the venue dial 😅 grinder's theory sounds closer to me 🐉🔥
Maybe I'm being dumb here but could it also be that the grand tease just hits harder on Autumn Moon? 😅 I had a slap at the pub last week and it dangled the grand two orbs away like three times in one session, then paid me crums. Feels like the near-miss is doing the heavy lifting on that cabinet 🐉
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The grand tease two orbs away three times a session? That machine knew exactly what it was doing 😅 near-miss artistry, and I still keep going back for it 🐉🔥
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Near-miss is half the fun of Autumn Moon honestly 😅 played it at the club over summer, grand teased me for half the session and I still rate it. My all-time favourite Dragon Link cabinet regardless 🐉🔥
Half the pub's Autumn Moon probably runs a different dial to your club's anyway 😅 the venue sets the RTP, so you're all comparing different machines! 🐰🎰
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yeah Geelong's got a point, every venue runs its own dial 🤯 still reckon Autumn Moon's the best Dragon Link cabinet, hit big on it last month at the club, grand tease and all 🐉🔥
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Big hit last month and you're still raving about the tease - a win on paper, right? 😏 The house always wins, or did your bankroll dodge that one 🤡💸
The house always wins.
@BankrollKing house always wins long run yeah, but my Friday hit on Autumn Moon paid for the arvo's beers easy 🤑 real money in me pocket, not on paper mate 🔥🎰
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Big hit last month and you're still raving about the tease - a win on paper, right? 😏 The house always wins, or did your bankroll dodge that one 🤡💸
@BankrollKing the hits are real money when you walk to the cashier and get paid, simple as that. I cashed out a decent one on Autumn Moon at the club myself a while back, hit the bonus round, banked it, walked. Long run the house edge always grinds you down sure, but that's why you set a loss limit before you sit down and actually stick to it. My rule on the cabinet is A$2 a spin, done the second I'm up a set amount or down my cap.
What gets me is the grand tease though, that thing is engineered to keep you spinning past your stop point. If you let the near misses run your session, yeah, the house wins every time. Discipline does the dodging, luck just fills the pockets 💸
500x one day, zero the next. Classic.
Near-miss is half the fun of Autumn Moon honestly 😅 played it at the club over summer, grand teased me for half the session and I still rate it. My all-time favourite Dragon Link cabinet regardless 🐉🔥
@DiamondWin same mate, that grand tease keeps me glued every Friday at the club 😅 near misses shouldn't feel that good but they do. Cash'd out a decent hit on it last session, couple hundred quid up ngl 🤑 bankroll can cope ah well 🔥🎰
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@VegasDivaBonus that grand tease gets me every time too 😅 still learning bonuses and all this stuff, but Autumn Moon near misses hit different. Question though, when you cashed out at the club, did the cashier have any withdrawal limits or was it just walk up and get paid? Total noob here, want to know before I chase a hit 🤑
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@Darwin club pokies just pay cash at the counter mate, no limits drama 😄 last Friday sesh on Autumn Moon I grabbed a few hundred A$ and walked straight out 🤑
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Yeah the counter pays cash no worries, done it plenty of times myself 😄 Autumn Moon's the one I keep going back to though, that hold and spin teaser is evil but when the orbs stack up it just pays 🔥 grand tease gets me nearly every Friday night and I still fall for it lol...
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@BankrollKing the hits are real money when you walk to the cashier and get paid, simple as that. I cashed out a decent one on Autumn Moon at the club myself a while back, hit the bonus round, banked it, walked. Long run …
@TiltSurvivor fair enough, a cashier payout is a cashier payout. My only caution on Autumn Moon is that the hold and spin on the club floor near me feels gimped. Orbs landing rarely enough that you end up feeding it for an hour to see one decent bonus. One cashout proves you got paid once; I'd want to see a few punters' session logs before calling it generous.
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@Darwin club pokies just pay cash at the counter mate, no limits drama 😄 last Friday sesh on Autumn Moon I grabbed a few hundred A$ and walked straight out 🤑
@SpinToWin_Club few hundred out on Autumn Moon, sure mate, and how much went in before that? 😂 interesting how the cashout photo never gets posted, only the story. Everyone's a winner on paper in this thread 🤡
A paper win won't feed you.
Model_Sheet probably feeding a cold machine, the club near me on Autumn Moon orbs drop way more often 🔥 gamble with the heart not the maths mate, ah well
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@Royal77 "heart not maths" is exactly how a punter ends up A$300 down on Autumn Moon wondering where the Friday went. The maths doesn't care about your heart, it just waits for you.
Having said that, Model_Sheet might genuinely be onto something. Dragon Link cabinets in clubs aren't all configured the same. Denomination and the RTP rules behind hold and spin can differ from venue to venue, so his local Autumn Moon may legitimately sting harder than yours. What he's calling "gimped" could just be a tighter config, plus a bit of session variance on a small spin sample. Either way, orbs dropping "way more often" at your club is one Friday's worth of observation, not a stat. Track it over a few visits and see if the tease rate holds up. 📊
Do the EV, then spin.
Model_Sheet probably feeding a cold machine, the club near me on Autumn Moon orbs drop way more often 🔥 gamble with the heart not the maths mate, ah well
@Royal77 "colds drop orbs way more often" is the classic gambler's fallacy dressed up with fire emojis mate 😂 every Autumn Moon cabinet has the same set payout cycle, your club's one just remembers you feeding it. Funny how nobody ever posts the A$ they shove in before the orb comes 🤡
The house always wins.
@Royal77 "colds drop orbs way more often" is the classic gambler's fallacy dressed up with fire emojis mate 😂 every Autumn Moon cabinet has the same set payout cycle, your club's one just remembers you feeding it. Funny …
@Cronulla spot on. I feed the club's Autumn Moon a cheeky fifty now n then and it "coughs something up" alright, about A$30 of it 🤡
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That's what I love about Dragon Link, every Autumn Moon machine plays different 🔥 my local club's one hits orbs pretty regular for me, feed it a bit n it usually coughs something up... mostly lol
@ChrisGold ha, no silence from me, I track mine. Autumn Moon on the local club machine, I set A$2 a spin with a hard A$100 stop and I'm up marginally over the last few months. Most punters don't write any of it down though, that's where the "hits orbs regular" stories come from 😭🎰
Bankroll discipline wins 💸
Maybe I'm being dumb here but what counts as "up marginally"? Like is that A$20 or A$200 over months? 😅 Might start tracking my Autumn Moon spins like you, ChrisRTP.
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Started tracking mine too after I convinced myself Autumn Moon was "due" one Friday night 🙈 funny how the notebook says otherwise. ChrisRTP mate what's your hit rate on the orbs, I feel like I go whole sessions at A$2 without seeing one 💀 Still my all-time favourite cabinet though, it keeps dragging me back... 🔥🎰
Started tracking mine too after I convinced myself Autumn Moon was "due" one Friday night 🙈 funny how the notebook says otherwise. ChrisRTP mate what's your hit rate on the orbs, I feel like I go whole sessions at A$2 wi…
@Parra18 lol the "it's due" feeling got me too, one Saturday at the local I pumped like A$40 into Autumn Moon chasing the orbs and got nothing 😅 New to all this still so might sound dumb, but does the orb hit rate actually change with bet size or is it the same odds at A$2?
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Parra18 mate I know that feeling, went three Fridays straight on Autumn Moon without a single orb then nearly fell off my stool when it dropped A$180 off a free spin run 🔥💰 If you're going A$2 a spin the notebook is gonna hurt, that cabinet makes you earn it. Still my Friday go-to at the club though, this slot pays when it pays 🎰
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