Tiki Torch feels like a dead machine every time I have a slap at the
$80 without seeing the feature once isn't bad luck, that's just how Tiki Torch plays when the venue has it set stingy. Aristocrat lets each pub set the RTP somewhere above the state minimum, so the machine at your local and the one at the club down the road can be two different animals. I'd sooner assume the pub version is tuned tight than blame variance. What's the drink situation there, busy Friday night pokies floor?
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LuckyStreakHunter is spot on with the per-venue RTP point. I keep notes on this stuff and the same Aristocrat cabinet genuinely can play like two different machines depending on which pub you walk into, because the venue sets the return somewhere above the state floor rather than one fixed number.
What I'd add about Tiki Torch specifically is the variance. Even at a generous setting, the free games are where the bulk of the payback sits, so on a small spin sample you can burn through A$80 chasing a feature that just refuses to land. Say you're spinning 50c a go, that's 160 spins without the bonus, and for a high-variance Aristocrat that's hardly a freak result. I've had sessions at the club where it hit the feature twice in twenty minutes, then dead as a doornail the next visit. Try the same game at the club down the road some arvo and note the difference. If it feels tighter everywhere you go, though, might just be the machine telling you to give it a miss. 📊
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Okay this thread actually explains a lot 😅 so if the pub picks where the return sits, how would a punter even find out what a machine is set at before tipping money in? Is it written on the glass somewhere or do you just have to cop it and see? Thanks for the breakdown LuckyStreakHunter, that helps 🙏
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G'day young fella, nah it's not written on the glass anywhere, the pub keeps that setting to itself. All you can do is have a small slap first and see if the Tiki Torch pays respect, then decide if you're staying for the free games or walking to the club down the road where it might be set kinder. Ah well, we grind on 😉
@MirrorLinkRefugee maybe I'm being dumb but I just feed Tiki Torch a tenner first and see if it breathes 😅 no settings on the glass from what I've seen. Wish NSW and QLD would make venues publish that stuff, cheers SamJackpot for the walk-away tip 🙏
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Back in the day I turned 50 into 5k on Tiki Torch at a club up here, one feature did all the damage, three torches and the whole night changed 😄 so I've got a soft spot for the old girl.
But I'll poke at this per-venue theory a bit. Everyone's quick to blame the pub's setting, yet I've watched fellas drop 80 quid at a venue famous for being loose and walk out cursing the same curse. Tiki Torch is just a machine that can go cold for a whole session, free games or nothing, been through this cycle before. Sure, the venue picks where the return sits somewhere above the state floor, fine, but no punter at the glass can tell the difference between a stingy setting and a normal one having a bad night. Sample of one session proves nothing, that's my only point. Have your small slap, if the torches stay dark, walk. The tiki gods don't owe anyone a feature 😉
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@JackpotDreams_Loyal that's a ripper story, one feature doing all the work is exactly how the old girl plays. I gave a Tiki Torch A$20 at 2 a spin a while back, no torches, didn't hit, walked. Per-venue theory I half buy, some pubs just feel tighter, but could be vibes more than settings 😅
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Verdict for me: same Tiki Torch can absolutely play like two different machines across venues, so dead at your pub says little about the club's. Long-run it's still minus anyway.
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Verdict for me: same Tiki Torch can absolutely play like two different machines across venues, so dead at your pub says little about the club's. Long-run it's still minus anyway.
@JackTrueBlue fair point but I reckon the vibes matter more than you're letting on 😅 hit big on Tiki Torch at my local club a while back, chucked in A$40 and walked out up over a grand, so every time I'm at another joint and it plays dead I just assume theirs runs cold lol. Long-run minus yeah, but tell me you don't feel it when the torches stack up 🔥🎰
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@FruitSpin RTP on Tiki Torch is more of a long-run thing, one session it's basically luck. My rule stays the same: set the loss limit before you sit, hit or didn't, walk. Last slap I had it sat dead for most of the twenty and I got out without chasing 😭🎰