Heads up before you have a slap on 5 Dragons at the pub
Your mate's story doesn't surprise me one bit. That Choice of Multipliers decision on 5 Dragons is where the variance really bites, take the greedy multi and your free games either pay monster or give you sweet nothing, there's a variance nuance here that most punters only discover after the balance is gone. On a small spin sample it feels fine, but the 30x option is a high-volatility pick and the EV is still negative regardless of what you choose, so chasing it with A$80 was always going to sting.
Worth remembering too that the club machine version has no single published RTP, each venue sets it within the state minimum, so the same Aristocrat cabinet can behave differently at your local than at Crown. 📊
Do the EV, then spin.
Ah good on you for asking, Darwin, no shame in it. Yeah, greedy multi means taking the highest multiplier option in that Choice of Multipliers screen during the feature, you get fewer free games but bigger multipliers, so it's boom or bust. I've watched fellas at the club take the big multi and watch ten blank free games eat their balance while the cautious punter on the low multi walks out smiling. Ah well, we grind on 😉
Ah good on you for asking, Darwin, no shame in it. Yeah, greedy multi means taking the highest multiplier option in that Choice of Multipliers screen during the feature, you get fewer free games but bigger multipliers, s…
@SamJackpot nailed the explanation, Darwin, that's exactly the trade-off. Only thing I'd add for the newbies reading along: your spin sample in any single pub session is tiny, so "boom or bust" can look deceptively calm for ages. I've had a 5 Dragons feature on the greedy multi deliver nothing three visits in a row, then one night at the local it finally stacked a decent multi on a mid symbol and paid for the whole arvo. Hit rate matters more than RTP when you're standing there with a fixed A$50 in your pocket. The low-multi choice keeps you playing longer, the greedy one just decides faster whether you're walking home happy. I reckon most punters should try the smaller multi first and only chase the top one when the bankroll can absorb the dry spells. 📊
RTP is a long-run number.
Righto Darwin, Sam's got it, the top option trades free games for bigger multis, so the hit rate collapses. 📊 Think of it like this: fewer spins with a fat multi means your wins depend entirely on the symbol draw lining up; take the smaller multi and you get more shots, which smooths the session out. Given the venue sets the payback within the state minimum anyway, you're never playing with an edge, so picking greedy just concentrates the variance. That's how your mate's A$80 went quick smart.
Volatility > vibes.
Righto Darwin, Sam's got it, the top option trades free games for bigger multis, so the hit rate collapses. 📊 Think of it like this: fewer spins with a fat multi means your wins depend entirely on the symbol draw lining …
@Grinder_Hunter nah I hear you on the maths but 5 Dragons at the greedy multi just hits different 😂 I know the hit rate falls off a cliff, been sitting there dead quiet on a Friday wondering why I bother... then one full screen of dragons with a fat multi lands and it wipes out the whole night's damage in one spin 🐉🔥
Reckon ChrisSpins said it too - that feeling is the whole point. Yeah the flat multi keeps you ticking over longer but I'd rather have the chance of one massive hit than 20 boring little A$ wins. This slot pays when it decides to, and I'm happy waiting for the big'un 💸
Backing my slot to the last spin.
@QueenOfSpinsLuck "hits different" = hits your wallet different, eh. Chasing one Friday feel for months of dead quiet, sure, post the screenshot when the dragons land 😏💸
Righto Darwin, Sam's got it, the top option trades free games for bigger multis, so the hit rate collapses. 📊 Think of it like this: fewer spins with a fat multi means your wins depend entirely on the symbol draw lining …
@Grinder_Hunter smooths the session, sure, till the pub's got your whole pay packet anyway 😏 Smaller multi just means 5 Dragons bleeds you slower, guaranteed minus long-run either way 🤡💸
Here to argue, not to clap for your profit.
Greedy multi on 5 Dragons is the only way I play it, no regrets 😂 Yeah you can sit there dead quiet for ages but when a big multi lands on a full screen of dragons it's a huge win ngl. Took the top option at my local one Friday and it paid for the whole night, been chasing that feeling ever since 🐉🔥
Greedy multi on 5 Dragons is the only way I play it, no regrets 😂 Yeah you can sit there dead quiet for ages but when a big multi lands on a full screen of dragons it's a huge win ngl. Took the top option at my local one…
@ChrisSpins that big multi night sounds like the dream, gotta be honest 😅 total noob here but I only ever play 5 Dragons on the cheaper option cos I go quiet way too fast on the greedy one. Does the multi pick actually change what you can win on the dragons or just how often the free spins trigger? Still trying to work out if it's worth stretching to A$2 a spin 🤔
New here, soaking it up.
@ChrisSpins that big multi night sounds like the dream, gotta be honest 😅 total noob here but I only ever play 5 Dragons on the cheaper option cos I go quiet way too fast on the greedy one. Does the multi pick actually c…
@GrampsAllDay78 good question mate, the multi pick changes how big the wins can get on the free spins, like the multiplier on the dragons is juicier the higher you go. It doesn't change the base game at all, only the bonus. So the cheap option still triggers free spins same as ever, they're just smaller when they land.
Honestly nothing wrong with the low option, I've had nights at the club doing A$20 a slap on the cheapie and walking out up. The greedy one is a different beast though, long dead spells and then BOOM full screen 🔥💰 Chris isn't lying about that feeling, worth one try with money you don't mind going quiet on. Ah well, 5 Dragons is my all-time favourite either way 🐉
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@GrampsAllDay78 good question mate, the multi pick changes how big the wins can get on the free spins, like the multiplier on the dragons is juicier the higher you go. It doesn't change the base game at all, only the bon…
@DeadSpin_Survivor yeah that's about the size of it, cheap option just means the bonus fires more but the dragons pay small when they land 😏 word from the floor I used to work near, the greedy multi nights in Adelaide pubs had punters parked all arvo for one trigger. Feed it loose change you're happy to lose and nothing else 🤫
Those who know, know.
@GrampsAllDay78 good question mate, the multi pick changes how big the wins can get on the free spins, like the multiplier on the dragons is juicier the higher you go. It doesn't change the base game at all, only the bon…
@DeadSpin_Survivor that lines up with what I've seen on 5 Dragons at our local, the cheap option just bleeds you slower while you wait on a bonus that pays small anyway. Volatility's real either way, but nobody ever posts their cashout after the multi pick pays off, only the trigger. Screenshot or it didn't happen, as always.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
@DeadSpin_Survivor that lines up with what I've seen on 5 Dragons at our local, the cheap option just bleeds you slower while you wait on a bonus that pays small anyway. Volatility's real either way, but nobody ever post…
@LuckyStreakHunter fair point re the cashouts, nobody ever shows the losses. Total noob here but that's how it felt on 5 Dragons last week, bled A$20 waiting on a bonus that paid diddly 😬
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@DeadSpin_Survivor that lines up with what I've seen on 5 Dragons at our local, the cheap option just bleeds you slower while you wait on a bonus that pays small anyway. Volatility's real either way, but nobody ever post…
The issue isn't just the slow bleed; the mathematical expectation shifts quite a lot depending on whether the multi or the cheap option is active.
The issue isn't just the slow bleed; the mathematical expectation shifts quite a lot depending on whether the multi or the cheap option is active.
@ReelMaster multi or cheap, mate, my heart still says 5 Dragons owes me after that A$300 hit last NYE 🐉🔥 I'll pick the multi every time, can't help meself.
Spinning reels dawn to dusk.
The "shifts a lot" line needs proof. Pub 5 Dragons configs vary, but nobody's posted the paytable from their local to compare. Screenshot it next time.
Hype isn't a payout.