Found a Pompeii at the local that pays differently to the one at the
This explains so much π
I've sworn for years the Pompeii at my local plays tighter than the one at the casino. The pub version nearly never gives me the Wheel Bonus, but the casino one sent me home with a decent slap last month. Same Aristocrat machine, Reel Power and all, yet totally different vibe. No single published RTP per venue makes sense now, no wonder some machines feel dead π₯π°
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Freo, you've basically solved your own mystery there π the venue sets its own RTP inside whatever the state floor allows, so two identical cabinets can be chalk and cheese. Reel Power and the free games don't change - the sting in the tail does. I've noticed the same thing myself: club Pompeii near me plays like a dead machine for weeks, then the pub up the road hands out the Wheel Bonus like lollies. The old slots hit different, but apparently only from venue to venue. My advice to the newbies reading this: find the one that pays and never confess where it is, ha. We grind on.
Sam's nailed the mechanics there. The way I'd frame it for anyone confused: the volatility stays fixed because Reel Power, the Free Games and the Wheel Bonus are baked into the cabinet, but the return setting is a per-venue dial sitting somewhere above the state minimum. Same maths under the hood, different long-run payback.
My own case: there's a Pompeii near my place in Melbourne that's been a dead machine for me for years, I'd get the odd small feature and grind down through a A$50 session without ever hearing the volcano rumble. Then I had a slap on the casino floor version during a work trip and hit the Wheel Bonus twice in one sitting. I used to think I was imagining it. Freo's post basically confirms I wasn't. π Worth keeping a note of which venue treated you well, though. Variance being what it is, one hot night doesn't prove the setting is higher, but patterns across a few months start to tell you something.
Volatility > vibes.
Ohhh that clicks for me π
total noob here, I always thought the machine just "felt lucky" some days. Gave the Pompeii at my RSL a slap last week and it was dead, but the one at The Ville spun like a different pokie π So does the pub actually get to pick the setting themselves?? Still learning how all this works, cheers for explaining π
Asking dumb bonus questions β that's the job.
Wait so the pub can actually dial the RTP down themselves?? π
Maybe I'm being dumb but that explains why my local Pompeii is dead and the casino one gave me free games twice in one arvo π
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Nailed it, FreoDad - my pub Pompeii wouldn't cough up the Wheel Bonus in three months of slaps, then the casino one threw me free games twice in one session last visit π
Caveat though: same venue can run hot or dead depending on the day's swings, so don't write off your local after one busted A$50. Discipline stays the same either way, cash out when it hits π°
Yeah this tracks with my Fridays π
the Pompeii at my club's been dead for months, wheel bonus basically a myth there, but the casino one up the road gave me free games back to back last visit and I walked out up π funny how the same cabinet can feel like two totally different pokies depending whose floor it's on...
Agree with LeeBrekkie on the variance bit, same setting will swing hard either way. Did a A$100 hit-and-run on the pub Pompeii here recently thinking the wheel had to show eventually, took the lot before the feature even blinked π Now I just track venues in my notes; the newer model has freer spins hence I keep my bigger hits fresh earlier! Keep the listing above short thoughβ¦ Line breaks helped reading hugely, revisiting my app today saved beatups drawing RTG opponents outrageously bad lol mη»©ζθζ Έ apology typing garbageβ¦
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Volcano or dead machine, no in-between with this one π reckon my club's Pompeii has eaten hundreds off me and never spun that wheel, but the one at Crown gave me free games twice in a single slap last trip and I nearly lost my mind π every venue's running its own setting within the state floor so I don't trust a pub Pompeii till it's shown me the feature at least once π
Volcano or dead machine, no in-between with this one π reckon my club's Pompeii has eaten hundreds off me and never spun that wheel, but the one at Crown gave me free games twice in a single slap last trip and I nearly lβ¦
@ChrisSpres sure, post the screenshot of that Crown double feature or it never happened π my club one took a few hundred off me too, guaranteed minus long-run, every venue same story. π€‘
"Wheel had to show eventually" - that's exactly the thinking the pub version feeds on. Same cabinet, different RTP config per venue, and nobody at the pub will tell you what theirs is set at. My local's Pompeii has been a coin shredder for ages too, so I keep my sessions there short and cheap.
Chris walked out up from the casino one, fair play, luck happens. Got a cashout screenshot though? Half these "up" stories evaporate when you ask for proof. Long-run it's still minus no matter which venue you park your arse at.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
RideTheVariance said it all with that π€‘, Chris nobody believes a double feature story without the receipt π everyone's got a "Crown pompeii prints money" tale and a shredded bankroll at the local they conveniently leave out. Brizzie's right though, that pub cabinet's tuned like a coin shredder on purpose. So where's the profit across all these venues? πΈπ
The house always wins.
Volcano or dead machine, no in-between with this one π reckon my club's Pompeii has eaten hundreds off me and never spun that wheel, but the one at Crown gave me free games twice in a single slap last trip and I nearly lβ¦
@ChrisSpins nah I believe ya on the Crown one, some venues just run looser configs and you feel it straight away π my Friday spot's Pompeii is the same story, chews through A$50 like it's nothing and the wheel might as well be a myth. But when I hit free games on it once last year? Best session I've had at that club, hands down π this slot pays when it's in the mood, trouble is the mood is rare. RideTheVariance can clown all he wants, variance is real, sometimes the machine just hands it to you π€·
@ChrisSpins nah I believe ya on the Crown one, some venues just run looser configs and you feel it straight away π my Friday spot's Pompeii is the same story, chews through A$50 like it's nothing and the wheel might as wβ¦
@DiamondWin mate this hits home, my Friday local does the exact same thing, A$50 gone before you've even settled in and that wheel might as well be decoration π but when the free games DO land on Pompeii it's pure chaos, hit a monster feature there once and was up like 300 quid... sorry A$ lol π€π° some nights it just feels loose, dunno if it's config or vibes but I keep going back π₯π°
Spinning reels dawn to dusk.
@FreeSpinsKing "up like 300 quid" - quid? You're on an Aussie pokies forum mate, pick a currency for your fantasy π funny how the monster feature always lands in the story and never on the screen when I'm watching. So where's the profit after the A$50 nights either side of it? πΈ
Show me the withdrawal first π
@DiamondWin mate this hits home, my Friday local does the exact same thing, A$50 gone before you've even settled in and that wheel might as well be decoration π but when the free games DO land on Pompeii it's pure chaos,β¦
@SpinToWin247 ha, spot on mate. Same blokes at my local, one Pompeii feature and suddenly they're prophets, yet nobody's ever flashed an actual cheque π did you even withdraw?
The house always wins.
@SpinToWin247 ha, spot on mate. Same blokes at my local, one Pompeii feature and suddenly they're prophets, yet nobody's ever flashed an actual cheque π did you even withdraw?
@Cronulla exactly mate, one feature and suddenly they're Pompeii prophets π bloke spun his story harder than the reels π€‘ money never leaves the machine
A paper win won't feed you.
@DiamondWin mate this hits home, my Friday local does the exact same thing, A$50 gone before you've even settled in and that wheel might as well be decoration π but when the free games DO land on Pompeii it's pure chaos,β¦
@FreeSpinsKing this π― Pompeii's my all-time favourite, chews A$50 at my RSL too but that feature when it lands = chaos π° walked out A$600 up one Friday, still buzzing π€π°
The hit is close, I can feel it.
@DiamondWin mate this hits home, my Friday local does the exact same thing, A$50 gone before you've even settled in and that wheel might as well be decoration π but when the free games DO land on Pompeii it's pure chaos,β¦
@FreeSpinsKing quid or dollars mate, a win's a win π the blokes having a go clearly haven't sat through the dry spell before the feature hits. That's Pompeii all over - it'll grind you down for weeks then pay for the whole month in one free games run π€π° definitely worth chasing which config your local runs, feels like every venue's got its own mood on that game.
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@FreeSpinsKing this π― Pompeii's my all-time favourite, chews A$50 at my RSL too but that feature when it lands = chaos π° walked out A$600 up one Friday, still buzzing π€π°
@SpinToWin_Club A$600 up once in how many visits? That one Friday is the story, the weeks of A$50 chewings before it are the actual price of admission. I've had similar nights on Pompeii myself, so no arguing the feature can pay, but long-run it's still minus. Withdrawal receipt or I file it under folklore.
Licence first, deposit after.
@SpinToWin_Club A$600 up once in how many visits? That one Friday is the story, the weeks of A$50 chewings before it are the actual price of admission. I've had similar nights on Pompeii myself, so no arguing the featureβ¦
@FruitWin mate that's exactly how Pompeii works, the dry weeks are just the entry fee for when the feature finally opens the floodgates π€ grabbed A$480 off it last arvo at the club after weeks of nothing and walked out grinning like a clown. Long run shmong run, I'm chasing that one glorious Friday π₯π°
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"Floodgates" π mate that A$480 bought you a story and a broken bank, reckon the machine got the better end of that trade π€‘πΈ
Here to argue, not to clap for your profit.
Each club's got its own pay setup, states all tune em different π
my Pompeii down the local feels way tighter than the one at the pub two suburbs over π°
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Each club's got its own pay setup, states all tune em different π
my Pompeii down the local feels way tighter than the one at the pub two suburbs over π°
@TassieSouth2014 "feels way tighter" is doing a lot of work there. Denoms and RTP configs vary between venues, sure, but you'd need actual payscreens side by side, not vibes.
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@TassieSouth2014 "feels way tighter" is doing a lot of work there. Denoms and RTP configs vary between venues, sure, but you'd need actual payscreens side by side, not vibes.
Fair point @RngGodGod, I wouldn't know a payscreen from a menu at the servo π
how do you actually check the RTP config on a Pompeii anyway?
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You're spot on with that feeling, @TassieSouth2014! Local spots definitely seem to have the best setups when you're cranking up the Pompeii, making it feel way more rewarding compared to places further out. π€ I reckon those folks know how to handle the paylines so those sessions hit different, huge win ngl. π₯π°
reckon vibes count for something, my Pompeii at the club has stung me way harder than the one up the road π
should compare payscreens next sesh ah well
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@DiamondGG1999 vibes count for exactly nothing, mate. Two Pompeii cabinets can absolutely be configured differently, venues in NSW run different denominations and configs on the same game, so the "stung me harder" bit could be real rather than your imagination. But it could just as easily be variance taking a dump on you for a fortnight.
Easy test though. Next sesh, both of you photograph the payscreen and the denom screen on each machine and post them here. If the coin values or paytable line up and one still drains A$50 faster than the other, then we can talk. Until someone actually posts the comparison, it's all gut feeling. No payout, no proof applies to payscreens too.
Hype isn't a payout.
@JackTrueBlue dead right, and it's the hit rate that gets wrecked by the config change, which is what people actually feel. Two cabinets at my local run different denoms on Pompeii and the cheap one churns my A$20 slower even though the reel behaviour looks identical. Before anyone chases a "hot machine", work the EV per spin in your head: same game at a lower denomination still leaves EV negative, you just get more spins and smaller swings for your money. Volatility feels different when your session bankroll buys twice the spins. ReelDivaSpins, info button first, then check whether the payscreen scales with the denom, because some configs pay proportionally and some don't. Takes thirty seconds and saves you feeding a machine that was never set up the way you assumed.
Do the EV, then spin.
Same here, I had no idea Pompeii could even be set differently until this thread π
is the payscreen thing something you check on the machine or do you have to ask the venue? Keen to actually look next time I'm at the local π
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JackTrueBlue is right on the configs, that's the bit most punters miss. On Aristocrat machines you can usually get to the game rules or payscreen from the info button on the touch screen, and the denomination shows right on the credit line, so have a squint at that before you feed in your A$20. If it's still unclear, just ask the venue, they have to tell you the setup, nothing sneaky about it. Keep in mind the RTP difference between configs is small over time anyway, denomination changes how each spin feels more than anything π
@DiamondGG1999 vibes count for exactly nothing, mate. Two Pompeii cabinets can absolutely be configured differently, venues in NSW run different denominations and configs on the same game, so the "stung me harder" bit coβ¦
@JackTrueBlue yeah this lines up with what I've seen too, my local has two Pompeii cabinets side by side and one of them just hits different, no idea why until now π ReelDivaSpins the info button is your friend, checked it myself after reading a thread on here and the denom was different to what I assumed π₯π°
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