Da Vinci Diamonds at the pub feels dead as a doornail lately
Dead machine? More likely it's just doing what it's built to do. That IGT unit runs about 94.94% return with middle-of-the-road volatility at 3 out of 6, so the Tumbling Reels and free games were always going to sit quiet for long stretches. Same deal on the online version of Da Vinci Diamonds in my experience, heaps of dead spins then the feature teases you. Give it a proper session before calling it broken.
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CasinoGrinder has it about right, though I'd add that a 3/6 volatility rating on Da Vinci Diamonds still means the tumbling chains can stack up quietly over a session before paying for the whole thing. I keep notes on my venue hits and the free games on that one have always come in bursts, three dead slabs then a feature, nothing in between. On a small spin sample like a pub arvo near the bistro, you'd barely see the middle of the curve, so "dead" might just be variance doing its thing. 📊 Give it a longer run before writing the machine off.
RTP is a long-run number.
chris is right about the quiet stacking, seen it on the old girl near the bistro. sat there one arvo with a lazy A$50 and the tumbles just ticked over, nothing, then a chain of three or four drops in a row and she coughed up decent. that's a 3/6 machine for you, middle of the road, you cop the dead spells. ah well, we grind on
Sorry, dumb question 😅 but when you say the tumbling chains "stack up quietly", do the wins keep adding on one spin or is it a new spin each drop? On Da Vinci Diamonds I mean.
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Good question Brizzie, no dumb questions in here. Tumbling Reels means the winning symbols vanish after a win and new ones drop into their place on the same spin, so one bet can chain a few wins together. New spin only starts once no more wins land. SamJackpot's arvo near the bistro is the classic version, A$50 ticking along then three or four tumbles in a row paying for the whole session. That's the 3/6 volatility doing its slow build.
Been grinding longer than some have played.
That explains it then, cheers JackpotDreams 🙏 I always thought each drop was a new spin. Tried the one at my local last arvo, dead quiet the whole session 😅
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Cairns, that session you had lines up with the maths. At volatility 3 out of 6 this machine is built to be steady rather than spiky, so long quiet patches are the design, a fault in your luck. The 94.94% return is spread over the whole life of the game, one arvo tells you nothing.
What I watch on the one near my local is the hit rate more than the return figure. Tumbling Reels chains are where the fun lives, and because the drops happen on the same spin, a dead stretch can genuinely go forty minutes with the reels barely stirring. My rule is simple: give it a fixed A$50 and judge it on whether one decent chain lands, nothing else. If the free games never even threaten, the variance just isn't swinging your way that day. Walk. 📊
Do the EV, then spin.
AlmostHadItVictim that makes sense, cheers 🙏 I gave the Da Vinci Diamonds near the bistro a slap last week and same, nothing but a couple of small tumbles all arvo 😬
FreoBlue, your arvo sounds exactly like the game doing its job. Think of it like rain in a dry paddock. You know roughly how much falls over a year, but turn up on any given Tuesday and you might get nothing. The 94.94% return on Da Vinci Diamonds is that yearly figure, spread over millions of spins on that unit near the bistro. Your half hour of small tumbles? Your spin sample there is tiny, it tells you very little.
The bit people miss is how that return is delivered. At volatility 3 out of 6, IGT built this one to pay modest amounts reasonably often rather than stacking everything into rare big hits. So the Tumbling Reels will chain a few small wins, then go quiet for ages, and the free games can hide for a whole session and more. Compare it to a high volatility pokie and the difference is obvious: same long-run return, completely different feel in the chair.
FreoBlue, your arvo sounds exactly like the game doing its job. Think of it like rain in a dry paddock. You know roughly how much falls over a year, but turn up on any given Tuesday and you might get nothing. The 94.94% …
Mate, all this fancy talk about paddocks and long-term averages is just code for how much the house is planning to take from us. When you start sounding like an accountant explaining why you lost your money, you probably oughta stick to the pokies instead of quoting statistics. Seriously, so where's the profit on all these predictable dry spells with Da Vinci Diamonds?
The house always wins.
Ngl @ReelMaster, you sound like one of those suits! This slot pays big when it decides to, just gotta wait for the big drop 🤩.
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Ngl @ReelMaster, you sound like one of those suits! This slot pays big when it decides to, just gotta wait for the big drop 🤩.
@DiamondGG1999 the big drop exists, I've banked it twice, but waiting for it killed my last three arvo sessions. Set a loss limit before you chase it 💸
Funny how everyone in this thread has had the same arvo on it. Had a few slaps on the Da Vinci Diamonds near the bistro myself and the Tumbling Reels barely coughed up anything. Not surprised though, IGT have set that one at 94.94% with middle volatility, so it's built to grind you slowly rather than ever give you a decent hit. The free games will show up eventually but by then you've usually fed it more than they pay back.
AlmostHadItVictim is right that one quiet session means nothing, but I'd flip it around, a hundred sessions also mean nothing if the return is under 95% to begin with. People keep expecting the portrait lady to deliver a grand and the maths says she mostly won't. Long-run it's still minus, so enjoy the art on the reels because that might be the best part of the machine.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
Honestly this thread has taught me more than my last month of playing 😅 I only tried Da Vinci Diamonds once at a pub near work and thought the game was just broken, didn't realise the Tumbling Reels are meant to be that dry most arvos. So the RTP is like a yearly average thing? That actually makes me feel a bit better about my dead sessions, thanks ReelMaster 🙏
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Funny how everyone in this thread has had the same arvo on it. Had a few slaps on the Da Vinci Diamonds near the bistro myself and the Tumbling Reels barely coughed up anything. Not surprised though, IGT have set that on…
Oof 😩 94% sounds legit but it's rough when the Da Vinci Diamonds reels are just blank. Do you think the volatility changes it heaps?
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