Choy Sun Doa at the pub has chewed through my last three slaps
Brutal is the word, no argument here. Choy Sun Doa at 5/6 volatility is built to eat slaps between features, that's just the deal with a 243 ways Reel Power machine. The free games picking your multiplier is where the money lives, I usually go mid multiplier and take what comes, the top pick bricks way more often than people think.
One thing worth checking before you write the machine off: the RTP on these Aristocrat venue pokies gets set per venue within the state minimum, so the pub down the road can genuinely be running it tighter than your local club. I moved my Choy sessions to the club near me and the difference in how long a A$50 slap lasts was noticeable. Same game, different config. Stick to a fixed loss limit per session and walk when the feature doesn't hit. Bankroll discipline wins on a machine this swingy 🔥
Bankroll discipline wins 💸
Yeah mate, this one's been chewing slaps since the Aristocrat days. And the pub version can run tighter than the club's, worth remembering before your next visit. Ah well, we grind on 😉
So the pub down the road might actually be running it tighter than the RSL? 😅 That'd explain a fair bit. Does anyone know if venues have to tell you what RTP they've set, or is it just guesswork? Still new to Choy Sun Doa - picked the multipliers in the free games once and got cleaned up anyway, ouch.
FreoBlue, mostly guesswork from the punter's side of the glass. Each state sets the minimum RTP a venue must run at, and the venue picks the actual configuration within that range, but there's no rule I'm aware of that says they have to display it on the machine. So the pub and the RSL can both have Choy Sun Doa running on different denominations and different tightness settings, and you'd never know from looking at it. Only way to get a feel for it is session logs of your own.
On the brutality question: with volatility at 5/6, a long drought between features is the design, not a fault. The free games with the multiplier choice are where the money comes back, and at 243 ways on Reel Power the base game dribbles enough small wins to keep you spinning while it grinds your slap down. My usual discipline is fixed A$ per session and the feature either saves the night or it doesn't. Depends on the volatility, and Choy Sun Doa has plenty of it.
Volatility > vibes.
Sorry if this is dumb, but what's Reel Power actually do on Choy Sun Doa? Is it just the 243 ways thing or something else? 😅
Asking dumb bonus questions — that's the job.
Reel Power is just Aristocrat's way of saying you pay for the reels instead of the lines, on Choy Sun Doa that unlocks all 243 ways to win, so any matching symbols left to right pay up. The catch, mate: with 5/6 volatility you'll still watch a lot of dead spins between features, and the pub down the road can run it tighter than the club, as SamJackpot said.
I remember the old slots first-hand.
Yeah that's the trade-off, 243 ways means small hits land constantly, so a tight venue hides it well. I set my bet per spin before sitting down at Choy Sun Doa, win or lose 🔥
500x one day, zero the next. Classic.
FreoDad's got the Reel Power bit right, but I'd push back gently on TiltSurvivor: setting a bet per spin is good discipline, yet it does nothing about the variance. On Choy Sun Doa at 5/6 you can drop a couple hundred A$ on a small spin sample and see nothing until the free games land, the 243 ways feed you endless piddling wins that just slow the bleed and make it feel livelier than it is.
And Darwin, you're onto something real. There's no single published RTP on this one - the venue sets it within the state minimum, so the pub down the road can genuinely be running it tighter than your local club, and you'd never know from the cabinet. Same game, two venues, very different sessions. My rule: track the feature frequency across a few visits. If the multipliers choice in the free games never comes with a decent multiplier behind it either, that machine's telling you something. 📊
Do the EV, then spin.
Stake changes the night more than people reckon - I sit at Choy Sun Doa on A$1 a spin and that number alone decides whether I'm still in the chair when the free games finally trigger. InRTPweTrustLoyal's right that no bet per spin softens 5/6 variance. It does something else though: it sets how many spins you survive while you wait on the feature. Pick your multiplier and pray the pub's wound looser than the club down the road 🎰
All this talk about bet sizing and discipline and nobody's asking the obvious one, did anyone here actually finish a Choy Sun Doa session up, or are we all just describing different ways to hand over a slap? 😂
Everyone's got a system: A$1 a spin, set your stake, pick the multiplier like it matters. Mate, at 5/6 variance with the venue free to run it as tight as the state floor, your "strategy" is just choosing the speed of the bleed. The house always wins, and the golden fortune theme is bait for blokes who think picking a 2x over a 3x in the feature is a skill. 🤡💸 Someone prove me wrong and post the screenshot, I'll wait. 😏
Fair dig JackpotGirl 😂 Been up once on Choy Sun Doa, picked the multiplier right in the free games and walked before it took it back. That last part is the whole game.
Choy Sun Doa chewed me up heaps of Fridays too 😅 but that one free games session where the multi hits right? CHASES every loss back, ngl 🎰🔥 ah well
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Choy Sun Doa at my club's been the same story 😅 that retrigger with the multi can go off though, got a free games session last month that saved the whole night 🔥
@MaxBetLifeLoyal the bit that gets me is "chases every loss back, ngl" said like it's a charming personality quirk 😂 that's the guaranteed minus long-run talking, mate. Choy Sun Doa's free games round is the carrot, you cop three dead Fridays, it dangles one session where the multi lands and suddenly the whole ledger in your head reads even. It never is.
I'm just asking about profit here, genuinely: after the chase sessions, are you actually up or are you ahead only on the nights you count? 😏 That's the whole trick of this pokie. Mine ate a fortnight's beer money last year over one retrigger I'm still chasing. 💸
@RideTheVarianceTillIWin dead right, "chasing every loss" gets dressed up like a strategy on here. Pub near me has two Choy Sun Doa machines and I've watched blokes feed them all arvo waiting on that retrigger that never lands. Funny how the free games always show up right after the wallet's empty 🤡💸 so where's the profit?
The house always wins.
@RideTheVarianceTillIWin dead right, "chasing every loss" gets dressed up like a strategy on here. Pub near me has two Choy Sun Doa machines and I've watched blokes feed them all arvo waiting on that retrigger that never…
@RideTheVarianceTillIWin ha, fair callout, chasing every loss back is a mugs game ngl 😂 But I reckon Choy Sun Doa earns the stick around, that free games round with the multi can absolutely rocket. Two dead Fridays in a row though and I'd be swapping to Lightning Link myself 🔥🎰
@Ben_Win 😂 deadset the pot calling the kettle here. You giving LeeBrekkie grief about a win on paper while your own A$1 spins are "keeping warm" - warm for who exactly, the pub's bottom line? Choy Sun Doa's free games with the multi picked right is the only time that machine's ever coughed anything back at me, and yeah, I bolted for the door quick smart after. Where's the profit in staying for one more spin, eh? The house always wins, we're just arguing over who tips it less 😏💸
The house always wins.
Choy Sun Doa at my club's been the same story 😅 that retrigger with the multi can go off though, got a free games session last month that saved the whole night 🔥
Choy Sun Doa at my club's been the same story 😅 that retrigger with the multi can go off though, got a free games session last month that saved the whole night 🔥
The Choy Sun Doa retrigger is just unreal 🤩. That multi potential is massive, it's the best provider hands down! 🔥💰
Backing my slot to the last spin.
Seriously, the whole "it'll come back" narrative around Choy Sun Doa is just designed to keep the punter at the machine longer. Those machines aren't forgiving; they are programmed to take the money, plain and simple. Stop letting the feature hype override the fact that the house always wins in the long run.
Licence first, deposit after.
Seriously, the whole "it'll come back" narrative around Choy Sun Doa is just designed to keep the punter at the machine longer. Those machines aren't forgiving; they are programmed to take the money, plain and simple. St…
@RngGodGod spot on. The retrigger hype keeps you parked at a Choy Sun Doa for hours, feeding it while telling yourself the multi is one spin away. Pub pokies are built that way on purpose.
Hype isn't a payout.