50 Lions feels dead as a doornail at my local
Same experience here, gave 50 Lions a slap at a club out west a few months back and it was an absolute graveyard, then a mate reckons his local's machine was paying decently. Both are Aristocrat venue pokies, no single published return, each venue sets the RTP within the state minimum, so yeah, your pub can legally run it meaner than the one down the road. Doesn't feel like coincidence to me.
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JackTrueBlue, your mate's experience makes sense once you know each venue sets its own return on 50 Lions within the state minimum, so no two machines are guaranteed to play the same. The paytable looks identical everywhere but the underlying setting can differ pub to pub. Two sessions on two machines tells you very little either way though, one decent free games run can make a tight machine look generous.
Sorry if this sounds dumb, but when you say the return is set per venue within a state minimum, does that mean a club can legally make 50 Lions way tighter than the pub down the road as long as it clears that minimum? Still learning how the settings work 😅 feels sus my local one never hits the free games.
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No dumb question at all mate, that's exactly it. Every venue picks where 50 Lions sits above the state's floor, so one pub's machine can be set tight as a drum while the club a few suburbs over runs it looser. Same reason I turned A$20 into a few hundred on the feature at an RSL once, then couldn't buy a free game at another joint.
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No dumb question at all mate, that's exactly it. Every venue picks where 50 Lions sits above the state's floor, so one pub's machine can be set tight as a drum while the club a few suburbs over runs it looser. Same reaso…
Sounds like the venues just adjust the parameters a bit but ultimately the house always wins. Did you even withdraw that A$20 you turned into wins?
@JackpotGirlCasino nah, venues can't just dial the RTP down on a whim, the machines are certified in their config and NSW/Qld gaming regulators check them. Cold streaks on 50 Lions are just variance doing variance things. And yeah, withdrawal proof or it didn't happen, so fair question to anyone posting win stories without a screenshot.
Licence first, deposit after.
That makes sense, FreoDad. I noticed sessions on 50 Lions are completely different depending on which club I end up in.
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BrizzieTrue summed it up nicely, and it explains something I noticed keeping notes on my sessions: same A$1 a spin on 50 Lions, but the venue with the tighter setting felt like it starved the Free Games feature for ages, then when I hit the loose one the feature came around a few times in one sitting. On a small spin sample though, don't read too much into a couple of sessions, the variance in that game covers a fair bit even between two machines on identical settings. 📊
Do the EV, then spin.
BrizzieTrue summed it up nicely, and it explains something I noticed keeping notes on my sessions: same A$1 a spin on 50 Lions, but the venue with the tighter setting felt like it starved the Free Games feature for ages,…
@InRTPweTrustLoyal that matches my own suspicions, mate. Turned A$50 into a decent hit on 50 Lions years back at a club near the Gong, then the same machine went colder than a morgue for months. A log beats vibes every time, I just never had the patience to write mine down properly 😄 might actually give it a go now.
It's all hit and busted before, folks.
Makes sense of why my local's 50 Lions has been a dead machine for months. Anyone kept a session log they can actually back up, or is it all vibes?
Deadset my local's 50 Lions is the same, haven't seen a Free Games round in weeks. Might start keeping a log like InRTPweTrustLoyal... 🔥🎰
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