Is the Wheel of Fortune at the club actually a dead machine?
Had a slap on the Wheel of Fortune at my club last arvo too and honestly same vibes. Wheel bonus gave me bugger all and those progressives were sitting way out there 😅 thing is with IGT venue machines, the RTP's set per venue within the state minimum, so your club's one could be tighter than the pub down the road... might not be a dead machine, just a dead machine AT your local 👀
SteveCobber nailed it with the per-venue RTP bit - that's the whole trick with these IGT machines. Same cabinet, two clubs up the road from each other, completely different pay. My last slap on one the Wheel Bonus barely cleared my stake, cashed out and didn't look back 🎰 Dead machine? Nah, just maybe a tight one at your venue. Worth a go somewhere else before writing it off.
Bankroll discipline wins 💸
Wait, so the same IGT machine can be set tighter at one club than another? How would I even tell which venue's got the looser one before I have a slap? 😅
Asking dumb bonus questions — that's the job.
Short answer, mate: no, you can't tell by looking. The venue sets its machines somewhere at or above the state minimum, and they don't stick a sign on the glass saying which end of the range they picked. Two clubs could run the exact same IGT cabinet and one pays noticeably better over time. Only vague guides are word of mouth from regulars and your own sessions, if a machine's been stingy for you three visits running, that's your data 😄
On the Wheel itself, I wouldn't call it dead just yet. These TV show ones live off the big wheel hit and the progressives, so most arvos the Wheel Bonus trickles out a few bucks and you walk away flat — been there myself, put in A$50 and limped out with A$12 once. Patience is the whole game with them, and most of us don't have that much patience. Ah well, we grind on.
That explains a lot actually 😅 total noob here, I gave one a slap at a club near me and figured the machine was just broken the way the Wheel Bonus barely paid anything. So if I keep getting stitched up at one venue it might be worth trying the same cabinet somewhere else? Still learning how all this RTP stuff works, cheers for explaining 🙏
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Worth a try elsewhere, yeah - same cabinet at my local hits the Wheel Bonus way more often than the one near the office ever did 💸
@LeeBrekkie this tracks with what Grinder was saying, same cabinet, different config, so the hit frequency on the Wheel Bonus can genuinely differ venue to venue. Worth remembering that two sessions is a tiny sample though; I've talked myself into "this pub's version is looser" before and then had it go quiet for weeks after. 📊
My rule of thumb: note the paytable screen and roughly how often the bonus fired across, say, fifty bucks of spins at A$1, then compare against your local. If one club is clearly stingier over a proper sample rather than one bad arvo, shop around - nothing wrong with playing the version that treats you better.
Do the EV, then spin.
Same cabinet at two venues can genuinely feel like different machines 😅 worth shopping around before calling it dead 🔥💰
@BigWinGod it goes beyond feel, the paytable config on those IGT wheels can genuinely differ between venues even on the identical cabinet. I keep notes on the ones near me in Melbourne and the Wheel Bonus frequency on the same game title varies enough that one club is clearly running a stingier setup.
One thing worth adding for Darwin: shopping around helps with the long-run return, but the volatility stays the same wherever you play it. The Wheel Bonus is where most of the machine's return sits, so a cold stretch there can eat a decent bankroll before you learn anything useful about the venue. Give the same cabinet a few sessions elsewhere and compare, one slap tells you nothing. EV is still negative either way, you're just choosing which club takes less of it.
Volatility > vibes.
Same cabinet at two venues can genuinely feel like different machines 😅 worth shopping around before calling it dead 🔥💰
@Grinder_Hunter this actually explains why my local Wheel of Fortune has gone ice cold, might do a lap of the other clubs 🎡💸
Yeah there's one Wheel of Fortune at my club that feels dodgy as, never spins the bonus. Swapped venues and it actually pays 😂 ah well
One slot, one love 🎰
Nah ours at the club spins the wheel bonus maybe once a night if you're lucky 😂 might have to lap the other venues like Chris said 🎡🎰
One slot, one love 🎰
Half the "cold machine" stories on here are just blokes who lost and want a villain 😂 do a lap if you like, wheel bonus still only lands when it feels like it 🤡💸
@ChrisGold fair point but I watched the one at my club go three full nights without the wheel and I was there through all of them (between jobs, plenty of time 😂). Could be variance, could be the thing's rooted. Either way I'm not chasing it round venues like a lost dog 🤡💸
Show me the withdrawal first 😏
@SlotQueen88 three nights is a long stretch, I'll give you that. I sat through a similar run on the Wheel of Fortune at my local a while back, must've watched half the regulars feed it and walk off grumbling. Mind you I've also had a night where it dropped twice before I'd finished my first coffee, so who knows.
ChrisGold has a point about villain hunting though. Between sessions on it I turned A$50 into about A$5k once years ago, then handed most of it back chasing the same high. Machine wasn't cold then and it wasn't cold for you either, that's just how the old pokies chew you 😄 give it a rest, come back fresh, and let someone else fund the wheel for a change 😉
Been grinding longer than some have played.
Half the "cold machine" stories on here are just blokes who lost and want a villain 😂 do a lap if you like, wheel bonus still only lands when it feels like it 🤡💸
@ChrisGold each to their own mate but I watched the wheel bonus drop twice in one arvo at my local last month, so the "villain" machine does pay sometimes 🎰🤑
Nah, don't write it off, Wheel of Fortune will totally hit you eventually. Been lucky recently, got a huge win ngl! 💰🎰🤑
Backing my slot to the last spin.
Nah, don't write it off, Wheel of Fortune will totally hit you eventually. Been lucky recently, got a huge win ngl! 💰🎰🤑
@Lee_Brekkie glad it hit for you 😅 I only just started on pokies so maybe I'm being dumb, but doesn't "eventually" mean you lose heaps first? Bit scared of chasing it now 🙏
Nah, don't write it off, Wheel of Fortune will totally hit you eventually. Been lucky recently, got a huge win ngl! 💰🎰🤑
@Lee_Brekkie love it when it lands for someone 🔥 what'd the hit end up as? I gave the Wheel of Fortune a smash Friday arvo at the club and got absolutely nothing off it, but I'm with you that it'll turn eventually. That wheel bonus keeps me coming back, one day it's gonna be mine 🎰😅
Spinning reels dawn to dusk.
@ChasingLossesRegret1984 "it'll turn eventually" is exactly how they get you. The wheel bonus landing for Lee means nothing about your next spin, that machine doesn't remember Friday. And until someone posts an actual cashout from it, I'll keep assuming the club's version is tuned tight.