Is 88 Fortunes a dead machine or is it just my luck?
People saying 88 Fortunes is a dead machine always feels like typical hopeful punter hype, like the machines actually owe them money. Light & Wonder programs these progressive jackpots and free games to lure players in, but it doesn't mean it's actually due. Has anyone seen a consistent run on this beast, or is this just one of those lucky sessions for one person?
RTP doesn't lie, win screenshots do.
Royal_Chaser is right that the machine doesn't owe you anything, and with 88 Fortunes the variance nuance is that most of the return sits in that progressive grand and the free games feature, so long stretches of nothing are baked in. The RTP also varies by venue since each club sets it within the state minimum, so your local's unit might genuinely be tighter than the one down the road. On a small spin sample you'll feel dead either way.
Do the EV, then spin.
Chasing the grand on 88 Fortunes is like feeding a washing machine hoping it spits out your old socks 😄 turned 50 into 5k on it once at the club, then the next three sessions were tumbleweeds. It's a long dry grind until the free games or a jackpot drops, so "dead machine" is just punter talk for a cold patch. Set yourself a limit and enjoy the slap.
Been grinding longer than some have played.
Maybe I'm being dumb but when yous say the return "sits in the grand", does that mean most spins are basically paying nothing back unless someone at the club hits the jackpot? 😅 Only had a couple slaps at 88 Fortunes myself and it felt like feeding the machine until the free games came. So the RTP is just different from what the pub sets?
Asking dumb bonus questions — that's the job.
Good question mate, and no, you're not being dumb. It just means a fair chunk of what the machine pays back over time is stashed in that grand and in the free games, so most ordinary spins dribble out very little while you wait. Like when I feed it A$50 and get tumbleweeds till the feature finally lands and hands back a chunk in one hit, ah well, we grind on.
SamJackpot summed it up well. Worth adding that on 88 Fortunes the RTP is set per venue within the state minimum, so two machines in different pubs can genuinely play differently. I've noticed the same game feel tighter at one local than another. 📊 Also agree with FreoBlue, without the Free Games landing a session feels like pure bleed.
Do the EV, then spin.
That bit about venues setting the RTP explains a lot, I always thought mine played tight at the pub near me 😅 Does the grand reset much or does it just build for ages?
Learning to clear wagering, go easy 🙏
Brizzie, the grand on 88 Fortunes usually takes a fair while to build, and when it does go it's often someone who's barely put anything through, which is the part that grinds people. Worth remembering the free games carry a big slice of the return too, so a session can feel dead right up until the feature lands. I keep a note of my slaps and honestly my sample is tiny, tells me nothing. 📊
Funny you mention the free games paying, Darwin, because that lines up with what I keep telling blokes at the club. On a small spin sample the free games round is where most of the session's return actually lands, the grand is a lottery ticket riding on top of it. If your last hit came in the feature, that's the machine playing to form, not a sign it's loosening up for the jackpot.
RTP is a long-run number.
The whole "due" thing with 88 Fortunes is pure hope. They just keep the machine's RTP long-run gimped so they can take the punter's cash at the club.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
Streaky, the "due" talk takes me back to the old reel days, blokes used to say the same about Queen of the Nile and the pyramids never paid a cent just because someone had a sookie for twenty minutes 😄
That said, I know the feeling with 88 Fortunes. Turned 50 into about 5k on it once at my local, then over the next few months couldn't buy a free games round to save myself. The grand sits there building and building and some punter walks past, whacks in a tenner and takes it clean off the floor. That part does grind you, no point pretending otherwise. But Chris is right, your session lives or dies on the free games, so if Darwin's getting paid in the bonus, he's doing better than most of us lately. I'd keep chasing the grand for fun and treat anything else as a bonus, that's how I sleep at night anyway 😉
I remember the old slots first-hand.
Streaky, the "due" talk takes me back to the old reel days, blokes used to say the same about Queen of the Nile and the pyramids never paid a cent just because someone had a sookie for twenty minutes 😄
That said, I know…
@FreoDad mate, Queen of the Nile in the bistro days, same song every arvo. Some bloke staring at the pyramids like they owed him rent 😂
Every machine's "due" until you check what the punter actually walked out with. Reckon half the jackpot braggers on here are down four figures for the year and posting their one good hit 🤡 Asking purely for a friend of course, how's your 88 Fortunes balance looking after a sesh, in profit or on paper? 💸😏
A paper win won't feed you.
Had a mate swear the grand on 88 Fortunes was "due" after three near misses, dropped another $50 chasing it 😂 free games carried him home though 🎰🔥
😂 mate that image of the bloke staring down the pyramids gets me every time. My mate did the exact same on 88 Fortunes, swore the grand was owed, then A$120 gone and silent 🙃
One slot, one love 🎰
Had a mate swear the grand on 88 Fortunes was "due" after three near misses, dropped another $50 chasing it 😂 free games carried him home though 🎰🔥
Streaky, the "due" talk takes me back to the old reel days, blokes used to say the same about Queen of the Nile and the pyramids never paid a cent just because someone had a sookie for twenty minutes 😄
That said, I know…
@FreoDad same story here, watched a bloke at my local feed a hundy into 88 Fortunes swearing the grand was coming, walked out with nothing but the four symbols going off once for pocket change. The "due" myth dies hard because every machine just looks like it owes you. If anyone actually cracked 88 Fortunes for the jackpot, got a cashout screenshot? Otherwise it's hope dressed up as a strategy.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.