Indian Dreaming pokies still emptying my wallet in 2024, anyone else?
Old girl's got 243 ways and Reel Power, she was robbing punters before some of us were born and she'll still be at it in 2044 💸 I copped the same at my local a while back. Took the free games feature, it did nothing, walked before it ate the whole arvo budget. Rule for me on Indian Dreaming: small bets per spin, and if the feature doesn't hit within a slap or two, I'm gone 🔥
ha, robbing punters since 1999 is right, she was munching my coins back when Queen of the Nile was the new girl on the floor. what gets me is how different she plays from venue to venue, same machine, and the one at my RSL is mean as a snake while the pub version up the road actually pays for the feature now and then. ah well, we grind on 😉
That venue thing is doing my head in a bit 😅 total noob here, so the same Indian Dreaming machine at the club and the pub can be set differently? Does that mean the free games hit more often at one and less at the other, or is it only about how much it pays back overall?
New here, soaking it up.
Quick answer for the noob: it's mostly about payback, not how often the free games trigger - the venue sets the return rate within the state minimum, and with 243 ways the hit frequency feels similar either way. Where it bites is variance: two blokes can have the same arvo slap on Indian Dreaming and one walks up, the other feeds the whole budget chasing a feature that never lands. On a small spin sample the difference between the club version and the pub version is basically noise; over the long haul the set RTP is what quietly does you.
Do the EV, then spin.
Mostly agree with that answer, Loyal, though I'd add one caveat: while the venue setting is mostly about payback over the long run, on a small spin sample like a single arvo session you'll never feel the difference anyway, you'll feel variance, and Indian Dreaming's variance is a stubborn old thing. Took the free games at my local a few months back, got the retrigger, and the whole feature still barely covered the A$60 I'd fed her leading in. 📊
For the noob: think of it this way. Two identical cabinets, one at the club, one at the pub — the 243 ways and Reel Power maths are fixed, the free games trigger the same sort of frequency, but the venue sets the return rate within the state minimum, so one machine quietly pays back a bit less over thousands of spins. Over your two-hour slap? Pure luck either way. The hit rate matters more than RTP when your budget's that small, which is why the old girl can feel generous one visit and like a dead machine the next.
RTP is a long-run number.
Variance, mate, is just the swing - how lumpy the ride is between pays. Indian Dreaming can chew through your arvo budget cold as charity, then the free games land and she hands it all back with interest; turned 50 into 5k on her once down at the club, next visit couldn't buy a feature for two hours. Same machine, totally different session, that's variance doing its thing. 😄
I remember the old slots first-hand.
FreoDad, that story rings true - same girl's been at my local since I had hair. Funny thing is the pub one down the road plays tighter than the club's, same machine. 😉
It's all hit and busted before, folks.
FreoDad's story is textbook Indian Dreaming. Same at my local: A$60 of cold spins, one free games hit dragged half of it back. Depends on the volatility, and hers is brutal.
Volatility > vibes.
MissFortuneWin99 nailed it, the pub one near me plays way tighter than the club's, same 1999 girl 😅 Free games or nothing. Ah well. 🔥🎰
The hit is close, I can feel it.
MissFortuneWin99 reckons the pub one's tighter, yeah same here near me 😂 club Indian Dreaming at least pays the feature now and then 🔥🎰
Funny how the club girl throws the odd free games hit while the pub one near me eats A$20 like nothing 😂 classic Aristocrat, still my favourite slap 🔥🎰
Backing my slot to the last spin.
Yeah the club one near me throws a free games hit often enough to keep you feeding her, but I've also had sessions where 243 ways pays diddly squat for a full grand down. Volatility's brutal either way, you're basically mining for that feature and nothing else 😭 Walked away at breakeven last arvo, count that as a win.
@BrekkieNorth1995 a grand down and diddly squat is very Indian Dreaming, been there more times than I'd admit. Funniest part is how different she runs venue to venue. Had a contact tell me once the floor manager watches which cabinets get fed and which get ignored, never said more than that 🤫 Draw your own conclusions. Those who know, know.
Those who know, know.
@BrekkieNorth1995 a grand down and diddly squat is very Indian Dreaming, been there more times than I'd admit. Funniest part is how different she runs venue to venue. Had a contact tell me once the floor manager watches …
@Kev_Esky2010 that venue-to-venue bit rings true from my own notebook. Two Indian Dreaming cabinets within ten minutes of each other here in Launceston, one I hit my free games maybe once every couple of visits, the other triggers them often enough that a modest session survives. Same game on paper, wildly different hit rate in practice, which is exactly what the volatility range allows for.
Worth remembering though, FruitWin has the long-run half of it right. RTP is long-run, not one session, so a generous floor setting still grinds you down if you keep feeding it. A grand down and diddly squat is a small sample telling you she was cold that night, which on this pokie can last a whole month of Fridays.
@Kev_Esky2010 that venue-to-venue bit rings true from my own notebook. Two Indian Dreaming cabinets within ten minutes of each other here in Launceston, one I hit my free games maybe once every couple of visits, the othe…
@ReelMaster two cabinets behaving differently ten minutes apart says settings differ, sure. Still minus long-run either way though. Got a cashout from the good one?
Hype isn't a payout.
Yeah the club one near me throws a free games hit often enough to keep you feeding her, but I've also had sessions where 243 ways pays diddly squat for a full grand down. Volatility's brutal either way, you're basically …
@BrekkieNorth1995 a grand for nothing is the Indian Dreaming special, been there more Friday nights than I care to count. Mine flips the other way though, fed her twenty all night then she spat back A$600 off one free games hit, that's why I keep coming back 🤷🔥🎰
One slot, one love 🎰
"Grand down for diddly squat" - mate that's just the guaranteed minus long-run doing its job 😂 Same pub sets her tighter than the club up the road, blokes reckon it's the same pokie but she plays like two different machines. Half a session of dead spins waiting on the free games that never land, then you walk out telling yourself next arvo's the one 🤡💸
Here to argue, not to clap for your profit.
DeadSpinRegret nails it, same cabinet, two different beasts depending on the venue. I set myself A$50 and walk when she's cold. Reel Power doesn't save you from a tight setting 😭🎰
Bankroll discipline wins 💸
@MaxWinLord A$50 limit is the only sensible bit in this thread. Venue settings do differ, but long-run Indian Dreaming still takes your money wherever you feed it. Post the cashout screenshot if she ever pays.
Licence first, deposit after.
That huge free games hit Neon_Addict mentioned is a massive spike in variance; it suggests those pockets of high volatility are rare.
RTP is a long-run number.
@VarianceTruther rare is doing a lot of work there mate. Neon_Addict drops one big free games hit and suddenly everyone's got a theory. Did he even withdraw or did it all go back in by Tuesday? That's the bit nobody posts 😏
My experience with Indian Dreaming is you wait all arvo for that spike, get a decent bonus round, and the "massive" win is like A$40 that barely covers the hour you spent feeding it. Rare pockets of volatility sure, but the house still collects rent either way 💸
Here to argue, not to clap for your profit.
I feel bad just sitting here reading all this analysis. Does Indian Dreaming have any good bonus features or things that help you actually clear the wagering requirements if you manage to win big? 😅
Asking dumb bonus questions, that's the job.
That huge free games hit Neon_Addict mentioned is a massive spike in variance; it suggests those pockets of high volatility are rare.
you're right @VarianceTruther. those huge variance spikes are brutal but that's just the way the old slots run. You've got to be patient waiting for 'em.
Been grinding longer than some have played.