Had a slap on the Lightning Link
Nice work cracking the jackpot build-up 😅 I only started playing the pokies a few months back and High Stakes at my local still confuses me a bit. Does the Hold & Spin reset clean after someone triggers the major, or does it keep creeping back up? And is it just me or does the same machine play tighter at the club than the pub?
Good question FreoBlue, and the answer trips up plenty of newbies. The jackpot resets to its seed value once someone triggers it, then starts building again from every contribution. So it doesn't keep creeping back up to old levels straight away. Worth noting the RTP on these venue machines isn't published as a single figure either; each venue sets it within the state minimum, so the build-up pace can genuinely differ between your local and a casino cabinet. On a small spin sample the difference is mostly invisible anyway, which is why the club vs casino comparison confuses people.
RTP is a long-run number.
No dumb questions at all mate, we all started somewhere 😉 Seed value is just the floor the major resets back to after someone wins it, every machine's got a starting point it builds up from. So the grand and major on High Stakes creep up off every spin at the club, then after a win they drop back to that seed and start the slow climb all over again. Same as the old reel days really, ah well, we grind on.
No dumb questions at all mate, we all started somewhere 😉 Seed value is just the floor the major resets back to after someone wins it, every machine's got a starting point it builds up from. So the grand and major on Hig…
@SamJackpot solid explanation, but worth adding that the seed being the floor means the house edge never changes. The maths on High Stakes is identical whether the major sits at the floor or has been building for a fortnight. Every contribution still goes through the same RTP, which is where the venue skims its cut long-run anyway.
I keep seeing punters chase a "juicy" major on Lightning Link thinking it's due to pop. That reasoning gets people broke faster than the volatility does. If the pot being high actually improved your odds, the pub would rig the display down, simple as that. Darwin's question was fair though, better to ask than assume.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
@SamJackpot solid explanation, but worth adding that the seed being the floor means the house edge never changes. The maths on High Stakes is identical whether the major sits at the floor or has been building for a fortn…
@CasinoGrinder agree, house edge doesn't budge. I just treat the seed like session sizing, floor means smaller bet per spin and longer run on High Stakes 💸
500x one day, zero the next. Classic.
Cheers SamJackpot, that helps a lot 😅 so the major's basically at its floor right after a payout, maybe that's why mine feels dead sometimes 🙈
Asking dumb bonus questions — that's the job.
Told the bloke next to me at the RSL the same thing when the major was sitting on the floor... he still piled in and scooped it half an hour later 😅🎰 deadset Lightning Link magic, ah well
@Royal77 that's wild 😅 total noob question though, when the major's on the floor, does the machine actually pay more or is it pure luck still?
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@Cairns_South pretty sure it's pure luck mate, SlotQueen88 called it. I only just learnt that myself 😅 does the jackpot reset small after someone lands it?
New here, soaking it up.
@Cairns_South pretty sure it's pure luck mate, SlotQueen88 called it. I only just learnt that myself 😅 does the jackpot reset small after someone lands it?
@GrampsAllDay78 yeah it resets to a base seed then the crowd tops it back up, Wollongong copped that personally 😂 So where's the profit on Lightning Link? 🤡💸
Show me the withdrawal first 😏
See this all the time at my local 😅 bloke hits the major off the floor and everyone loses their minds. It just pays, doesn't matter what seed says 🎰
@SamJackpot solid explanation, but worth adding that the seed being the floor means the house edge never changes. The maths on High Stakes is identical whether the major sits at the floor or has been building for a fortn…
@CasinoGrinder maths is the same every spin, no arguing that, but timing still matters for how long your session survives, I sat through a fortnight-build at High Stakes last month and copped nothing, would've been better off taking my shot at the floor with a smaller bet per spin and keeping the bankroll alive. Lucky? nah, just variance doing its thing 😭
@CasinoGrinder agree, house edge doesn't budge. I just treat the seed like session sizing, floor means smaller bet per spin and longer run on High Stakes 💸
@Gramps_AllDay hard relate mate, sat through a big build on High Stakes once and got absolutely bupkis 😤 still love it though, that hold-and-spin tension is unreal 🔥🎰
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@CasinoGrinder agree, house edge doesn't budge. I just treat the seed like session sizing, floor means smaller bet per spin and longer run on High Stakes 💸
@TiltSurvivor "longer run" mate, longer run to what exactly? 😂 Same maths stretched over more spins just means you lose your A$ slower and feel better about it. Had a mate at the RSL swear by the same theory on Lightning Link High Stakes, played half the arvo on the floor bet, walked out lighter than if he'd just smacked max like a lunatic.
Every punter's got a system and none of them survive contact with a hold-and-spin that pays bupkis. The house always wins, session sizing is just a comfort blanket 🤡💸 So the real question, did you even withdraw after one of these "longer" sessions, or does the longer run just mean a longer receipt? 😏
The house always wins.
@Cairns_South nah mate, the major dropping is pure luck, the machine doesn't suddenly get generous because it's sat there a while 😂 Everyone reckons otherwise and then you hear the same story, hit the feature, get bupkis, wonder where the A$ went. Did anyone here actually withdraw a major, ever, or is it all wins on paper? 🤡💸
Show me the withdrawal first 😏
Yeah the major resets to a base seed once someone lands it, then builds again off the crowd. Hit one on High Stakes last year, felt like free money for the bloke after me 😭
Profit on Lightning Link? Most blokes never see it, mate 😂 I keep the session tight, bet small per spin and walk the second the feature pays anything decent. Cleared a minor once on High Stakes and cashed it straight out before the machine could bite back. That reset story is true though, seen the major drop back to seed at my local and felt sick for whoever fed it. 😭🎰
500x one day, zero the next. Classic.
Yeah the major resets to a base seed once someone lands it, then builds again off the crowd. Hit one on High Stakes last year, felt like free money for the bloke after me 😭
@Wollongong_True ha that's the pokie tax mate, someone always cops it right after the major 🤣 hit big on High Stakes last night myself, A$1,200 off a hold and spin, felt unreal 🔥🤑
Wait so the major literally drops back to the seed after a hit? Still learning bonuses and jackpots, that explains a lot 😅 Congrats SteveDarwin, A$1,200 off hold and spin is a ripper 🤑