Had a slap on 5 Dragons at the club arvo and the Choice of
Mate I know that freeze up too well π
Was having a slap on 5 Dragons at the club last Friday arvo and got the Choice of Multipliers up. Sat there like a muppet for a solid minute while the old bloke next to me started sighing. Low multi + more spins or the gamble on fewer games? My heart says take the big multiplier every time and usually my heart is wrong π€¦
Still love this pokie though, 243 ways going wild in the free games is unreal when the dragons land. Had a session there a while back where the feature just kept retriggering, walked out up about A$300 and felt like a king π€π° Aristocrat really knew what they were doing with this one. Anyone else always pick greedy or do you play it safe?
The hit is close, I can feel it.
Funny you mention the bloke sighing next to you, I've been that bloke, and I've been the muppet doing the choosing too π
Back when 5 Dragons was new I'd always grab the low multi with the extra games, figured more chances beats a bigger hit. Reel Power and them 243 ways means even the modest multi can string something together. These days I'll take the gamble on fewer games if I'm up a bit, because turning 50 into a decent payout once taught me the higher multi is where the real stories live, and where most banks die too. No rhyme to it, just mood on the day.
Worth remembering the venue sets its own return within the state minimum, so the club's 5 Dragons and the pub up the road can play two different beasts anyway. Ah well, we grind on π
Darwin, good question and worth getting straight in your head. The multiplier choice doesn't change how often the free games win. It changes how much each win pays when it lands. Pick the higher multi and every winning spin during the feature gets boosted more, but you're running fewer games to get there, so variance goes up: longer dry stretches inside the feature, bigger payouts when one connects. Low multi with more games smooths it out. Smaller hits, more of them, and on a small spin sample either option can look like the right or wrong call.
My own habit on 5 Dragons after years of slapping it at the club: if the base game was kind to me and I'm ahead, I'll take the extra games and protect the session. If I've fed the machine a fair bit waiting on the feature, I'll gamble on the bigger multi and let it swing.
RTP is a long-run number.
Cheers Chris, that helps π so it's purely the size of wins, not the odds. Then maybe I'm being dumb but why wouldn't everyone just grab the biggest multi? π€
Asking dumb bonus questions β that's the job.
Biggest multi eats your whole session if the feature pays dead π
I grabbed the top one once at the club, got like two small hits across the free games and walked off feeling robbed. These days I'm a middle-of-the-road punter with it, bit of both. Volatility is a harsh mistress ngl
One slot, one love π°
Fair challenge FreoBlue, but I'd say the "variance excuse" is actually the correct answer here, the expected value of the picks is designed to be roughly the same, so the choice only changes the shape of your session. Pick the top multi and your swings get wilder; the middle option trades peak size for more frequent hits, which is why it keeps an arvo alive. DiamondGG isn't blaming variance, he's managing it, and that's just sensible play on a 243-ways Reel Power machine. π
Volatility > vibes.
Grinder reckons the picks are all the same value but my gut still says the middle multi hits sweeter π
Had the feature up on 5 Dragons at the club a few Fridays back, went middle, and the dragons bloody delivered π₯ Worst part is still the freeze-up though, sat there like a stunned mullet while the whole bank watched me pick π
Grinder's maths might be right but my bankroll says otherwise π
went top multi on 5 Dragons once at the pub, copped a dead feature and the session was over in ten minutes. Middle keeps you spinning long enough for the dragons to actually pay, and that's the whole point when you're on a set buy-in. πΈπ
Bankroll discipline wins πΈ
Grinder's right on the maths, whether we like it or not, the picks are dressed up to feel different but the long-run RTP gets gimped identically whichever door you poke. That said, if the middle multi keeps you spinning longer on a fixed A$ buy-in, that's a legitimate reason to take it. Survivability is a strategy of sorts, even if the house edge never moves.
What I'd push back on is the "dragons delivered" talk, Chris. One good arvo at the club proves nothing except that variance went your way that Friday. I've sat through enough dead features on 5 Dragons to know the machine doesn't owe anyone a comeback. Keep the receipts and the bankroll honest, and the choice matters far less than people reckon.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
Fair challenge FreoBlue, but I'd say the "variance excuse" is actually the correct answer here, the expected value of the picks is designed to be roughly the same, so the choice only changes the shape of your session. Piβ¦
@Grinder_Hunter yeah I'm with you on the EV being the same, but the shape argument is exactly why I always take middle on 5 Dragons. Top multi on a fixed A$40 buy-in is a coin flip between a dead feature and walking to the counter, learned that the hard way a few times π Middle just buys you more spins to let the dragons actually land something π₯
Bankroll discipline wins πΈ
Middle all day for me too, dead feature on top multi hurts the soul π
Got a freezup on 5 Dragons once and the whole club knew about it lol π₯
Backing my slot to the last spin.
Half of you reckon the middle multi is a strategy and the rest just got bored paying rent to the dragons π€‘ Always worth asking: what's actually left in profit after the feature pays you back? π
@PaulSlots13 a freezup on 5 Dragons is unreal, whole club staring at the screen π middle multi gang here too, that feature keeps me on the pokies way longer π₯π°
Half of you reckon the middle multi is a strategy and the rest just got bored paying rent to the dragons π€‘ Always worth asking: what's actually left in profit after the feature pays you back? π
A paper win won't feed you.
@BigWin_Mania382 asked the right question and everyone skipped past it. Whatever multi you pick on 5 Dragons, the club counter doesn't care - long-run it's still minus. Half these "middle gang" posts would fold if someone asked for a cashout screenshot.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
@BigWin_Mania382 asked the right question and everyone skipped past it. Whatever multi you pick on 5 Dragons, the club counter doesn't care - long-run it's still minus. Half these "middle gang" posts would fold if someonβ¦
@Brizzie_Mate fair challenge but my rule on 5 Dragons is set the bet per spin before I sit down and cash out the moment a feature pays over what I walked in with. Last arvo session I cleared the feature, locked it in the same minute, didn't feed it back. Long-run minus sure, but discipline decides whether the club counter sees your profit or not ππ°
@Brizzie_Mate fair challenge but my rule on 5 Dragons is set the bet per spin before I sit down and cash out the moment a feature pays over what I walked in with. Last arvo session I cleared the feature, locked it in theβ¦
@Wollongong_True sure mate, cashout the same minute π pics of the payout ticket or it's a win on paper. Did they even let you withdraw?
Show me the withdrawal first π
@Wollongong_True sure mate, cashout the same minute π pics of the payout ticket or it's a win on paper. Did they even let you withdraw?
@SlotQueen88 lol you're ruthless π but yeah at the club it's dead easy, walk the ticket to the bar or counter and they pay you out, no drama unless it's a proper handpay. Did that myself on 5 Dragons once when the Choice feature smashed, still got the ticket pic somewhere π€
One slot, one love π°
@Brizzie_Mate fair challenge but my rule on 5 Dragons is set the bet per spin before I sit down and cash out the moment a feature pays over what I walked in with. Last arvo session I cleared the feature, locked it in theβ¦
@Wollongong_True same discipline works for me, though at the club the "cashout" is just moving to the bar with your ticket, no counter queue drama unless it's a handpay level payout. Set bet per spin before I sit, walk when a Choice feature covers the buy-in, that's saved my arvo more times than I can count ππΈ
@BigWin_Mania382 asked the right question and everyone skipped past it. Whatever multi you pick on 5 Dragons, the club counter doesn't care - long-run it's still minus. Half these "middle gang" posts would fold if someonβ¦
@Brizzie_Mate mate nobody's claiming 5 Dragons pays long-run, we're there for the feature buzz π I know the club counter wins over the year, but when that Choice multi hits big on a Friday arvo it feels like beating the system for one night π€ Ah well, my wallet says otherwise most weeks π₯π°
The hit is close, I can feel it.
I've definitely got the ticket photos ready, but seriously, what's the process for cashout when it hits that big bonus? π
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Learning to clear wagering, go easy π
I've definitely got the ticket photos ready, but seriously, what's the process for cashout when it hits that big bonus? π
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@Servo_True from what I've seen at my local it's just take the ticket to the counter, they pay you there unless it's handpay level. Never hit a big one on 5 Dragons myself yet π
what's a handpay threshold anyway?
New here, soaking it up.
@Servo_True from what I've seen at my local it's just take the ticket to the counter, they pay you there unless it's handpay level. Never hit a big one on 5 Dragons myself yet π
what's a handpay threshold anyway?
BrizzieTrue, that sounds pretty straightforward for 5 Dragons, which is good news because Iβm always worried about the paperwork π
. Do those handpay thresholds usually kick in around a certain amount, like $10k or more, or is it just totally up to the individual club? I hope it's not too complicated, go easy on me π.
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