Chased the Buff all arvo at the local and the thing was ice cold
This might be a dumb question but is the Buffalo at your pub actually the same machine as the one at the club? π€ I only just learnt venues can set their own RTP as long as it's above the state minimum, so maybe the pub one is just tuned tighter π
I gave it a couple slaps at A$2 a go last month and same thing, no feature, dead cold.
Asking dumb bonus questions β that's the job.
Good on you for working that out early, mate, took me years of cold Buffalos to click. The pub version can genuinely run tighter than the club one, since each venue sets its own return within the state floor. I've had arvoes at the local where $2 a go wouldn't sniff the free games, then the club machine up the road pays for the same session. Ah well, we grind on π
Good question Darwin, nothing dumb about it. Each state sets a floor for what a pokie has to pay back over its life, and the venue can set the actual return anywhere above that floor, so your pub's Buffalo can legally run tighter than the club's down the road. Explains why I've had arvo sessions where the free games never show up, then the same machine at the club pays like a dream π
I remember the old slots first-hand.
Everyone's very quick to pat each other on the back about venue-set RTP, but ask yourself, did anyone actually verify what their local is running? The venue sets it within the state floor, sure, but nobody's publishing the number on the glass. You're trusting the publican's goodwill on a machine whose whole job is taking A$2 a spin off drunks at 9pm.
Even if the pub's Buffalo is tuned looser than the club's, the free games with the wild multis are where Aristocrat pays you, and ice-cold sessions like that are just the long-run doing its thing. Chasing the Buff all arvo and never sniffing the feature is normal, that's the machine working as designed. Post a cashout screenshot if a session actually went your way; no payout, no proof.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
Everyone's very quick to pat each other on the back about venue-set RTP, but ask yourself, did anyone actually verify what their local is running? The venue sets it within the state floor, sure, but nobody's publishing tβ¦
@Brizzie_Mate you're right that nobody verifies anything, but I'd push it one step further: even if the number was on the glass, half the room wouldn't read it. My local's Buffalo has eaten A$100 off me in an afternoon more times than I care to count, and the blokes next to me just call it "cold" and feed it again. Whether the venue is running floor or a point above floor, long-run it's still minus for the punter.
BigWinGod's A$380 sounds lovely, but that's exactly the story I'd want a cashout screenshot for before believing. Memory keeps the wins and files the losses under "cold machine". Ask anyone swearing their club Buff is looser what they pulled out over a month, not one Friday night, and watch the answer change.
Licence first, deposit after.
@FruitWin honestly most punters don't want to read it either, they'd rather blame the machine than check the label. I set my loss limit before I sit down and walk when it's gone, no exceptions - same as cashing out a win on time. The glass number wouldn't change my session anyway, the bankroll rules do πΈ
@FruitWin honestly most punters don't want to read it either, they'd rather blame the machine than check the label. I set my loss limit before I sit down and walk when it's gone, no exceptions - same as cashing out a winβ¦
@LeeBrekkie respect the discipline mate, wish I had half that willpower π
me after a good hit on the Buff? I'm feeding it straight back "just one more free games trigger" and walking out with pockets empty more often than not. But yeah cold machine blaming is real, sometimes the Buff's just icy and no label's gonna fix that π°
Backing my slot to the last spin.
Brizzie_Mate has a point actually, none of the pubs I've slapped ever show the number on the glass π€ club Buffalo near me felt way looser than the local one, no question
Haha the Buff has done me dirty plenty of Friday nights too π
FreoDad's right though, the pub one can genuinely be tighter than the club's, no number on the glass to prove it either way. Had a ripper free games round at the club last arvo, wild multi stacked up nice π€ ah well, back for another slap next week π°π₯
Spinning reels dawn to dusk.
cold Buff at the pub is basically a weekly tradition for me π
mine never pays a cent before the sun goes down, then the club one up the road hands me A$380 on the free games last Friday, absolute scenes π€π₯ VegasDiva said it right, no proof either way but my feet just know which one to walk into.
One slot, one love π°
PaulSlots13 that "one more free games trigger" thought is exactly how yesterday's session went for me, chased a cold Buff for ages and gave back what I'd banked π° The way I manage it now is setting my bet per spin at A$1 flat and cashing out any hit over A$150 straight away, no re-feeds. Worked for LeeBrekkie's loss limit logic, works for me too π
500x one day, zero the next. Classic.
PaulSlots13 that "one more free games trigger" thought is exactly how yesterday's session went for me, chased a cold Buff for ages and gave back what I'd banked π° The way I manage it now is setting my bet per spin at A$1β¦
@TiltSurvivor that cash-out-over-A$150 rule is a solid one, respect it π I'm worse though, Buff goes cold on me and I keep telling myself she's gotta heat up any spin now π
got absolutely dusted chasing the free games at my local last Friday too. Ah well, the pokies are always action there anyway ππ₯
One slot, one love π°
@LeeBrekkie respect the discipline mate, wish I had half that willpower π
me after a good hit on the Buff? I'm feeding it straight back "just one more free games trigger" and walking out with pockets empty more often thaβ¦
Haha mate the Buff is my kryptonite too π
one free games retrigger and I'm gone. But when she fires up properly... ππ₯
Backing my slot to the last spin.
Haha mate the Buff is my kryptonite too π
one free games retrigger and I'm gone. But when she fires up properly... ππ₯
@QueenOfSpinsLuck yeah but that's the trap eh, she only fires up properly when you've already tipped half your roll in. Had a session like that myself, sat there at A$2 a spin watching dead spin after dead spin, then the free games finally landed and covered me roughly back to even. Took the cashout and left, no re-feeds.
These days I treat the Buff like a bonus hunt: fixed budget, walk when it's gone, and any hit over A$150 gets banked on the spot. Chasing the retrigger is where the damage happens every time π°
Bankroll discipline wins πΈ
@QueenOfSpinsLuck yeah but that's the trap eh, she only fires up properly when you've already tipped half your roll in. Had a session like that myself, sat there at A$2 a spin watching dead spin after dead spin, then theβ¦
@MikeRoller covered back to even is still a win in my book mate π
the Buff does my head in too but when she pays, she PAYS. Hit big last night on Lightning Link instead, A$380 off a A$20 fluke feature, ngl that machine owes you nothing π₯π€
Backing my slot to the last spin.
@Freo_True nice hit, but that's the trap isn't it. You fluke a Lightning Link feature off A$20 and suddenly the Buff looks tame. Word I've heard from a contact of mine in the club scene: the Buff's volatility is baked in deeper than most, those dead spins are part of the design. π When she finally opens up she opens up BIG, but you've gotta be the one still standing when it happens.
Friday gone she was ice cold everywhere by the sounds of it, so nobody's mug here. Patience pays on that one, always has π€«
Those who know, know.
@Freo_True A$380 off a A$20 fluke?? that's why Lightning Link owns me π
the Buff makes you bleed for hers but when that grand jackpot dummy hits... unreal
backed half my roll into the Buff last Friday too and she was frozen, walked out with me tail between me legs π
might have to nick that A$150 rule tbh ππ₯
Everyone in here sounds like they got dusted by the same cold Buff last Friday π funny how she never "fires up properly" for anyone who's actually up. Mike reckons his free games covered him back to even, sure mate, a win on paper, right π
Here to argue, not to clap for your profit.
Everyone in here sounds like they got dusted by the same cold Buff last Friday π funny how she never "fires up properly" for anyone who's actually up. Mike reckons his free games covered him back to even, sure mate, a wiβ¦
@DeadSpinRegret ha, calling me out and I haven't even posted my Friday story yet π Yeah mate, dusted at the local too, sat through what felt like an hour of dead spins at A$2 a pop waiting on the free games like a mug. Funniest part is I watched a bloke two seats over cash out over A$150 and walk off grinning while I was still donating.
That's the trick though isn't it - the ones actually up are the ones who buggered off early. She never "fires up", she just takes your roll slower or faster depending on her mood π€‘ Everyone in here chasing the next session like the Buff owes us a comeback. She owes nobody nothing πΈ
Here to argue, not to clap for your profit.
@MikeRoller covered back to even is still a win in my book mate π
the Buff does my head in too but when she pays, she PAYS. Hit big last night on Lightning Link instead, A$380 off a A$20 fluke feature, ngl that machine oβ¦
@Freo_True A$380 off a A$20 fluke is exactly why Lightning Link is my all-time favourite π
same thing happened to me a few Fridays back, chucked in a lazy A$20 and walked out with A$300 after one feature, couldn't believe it π€ The Buff makes you earn every cent but Lightning Link just hands it over some nights, that's why I keep going back π₯π°
The hit is close, I can feel it.
A$380 off A$20, sure mate, and I've got a bridge to sell ya π€‘ Bet the screenshot came with a busted bank attached π Buffalo doesn't hand out anything, we all know that.
The house always wins.
@Freo_True nice hit, but that's the trap isn't it. You fluke a Lightning Link feature off A$20 and suddenly the Buff looks tame. Word I've heard from a contact of mine in the club scene: the Buff's volatility is baked inβ¦
@BankrollKing ha, exactly my thinking. Funny how these A$380 heroes never mention the A$500 they fed in first. Did you even withdraw, Freo? π
The house always wins.
@BankrollKing ha, exactly my thinking. Funny how these A$380 heroes never mention the A$500 they fed in first. Did you even withdraw, Freo? π
@Cronulla new to pokies so genuine question - isn't that just variance on Buffalo? Cold all arvo then one feature pays, happens right? π
Learning to clear wagering, go easy π
Brizzie_True yeah variance is real, but funny how the "cold all arvo" stories always forget the part where they topped up three times π€‘ Buffalo's built to tease you with two buffs and a scatter short all session, then some punters hit one feature and call it profit. Just asking, anyone here actually walked out ahead on the Buff for the week? π
A paper win won't feed you.
Variance on Buffalo cuts both ways, Brizzie, same maths that gives you the feature can eat three top-ups first. Anyone claiming a win here, cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
Cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
Variance on Buffalo cuts both ways, Brizzie, same maths that gives you the feature can eat three top-ups first. Anyone claiming a win here, cashout screenshot or it didn't happen.
@CasinoGrinder fair point on the screenshot thing but mate, Buffalo can be brutal like that, everyone knows it. Had a Friday at my local a while back where it starved me all arvo, two buffs and no scatter, then ONE free spins round with a couple of retriggers paid for the whole session and then some π€ didn't take a pic either, was too busy going off.
So what, we call everyone a liar now unless they film the screen? Some of us just play for the feel of it π° Buffalo's my all-time favourite and yeah the maths eats you plenty of nights, that's the price of the chase.
Spinning reels dawn to dusk.
@CasinoGrinder fair point on the screenshot thing but mate, Buffalo can be brutal like that, everyone knows it. Had a Friday at my local a while back where it starved me all arvo, two buffs and no scatter, then ONE free β¦
man, i remember when the old reel machines used to run, sometimes theyβd chew you up whole for hours just before the big hit came around. youβd think you were seeing a pattern, but nah, they just took your colour and spit it back out later if you were patient enough.
@GeelongLegend48 you hit the nail on the head about Buffalo. it's that cycle, isn't it. starving you out, making you feel like the machine has got it locked down and you're just a fool standing there, and then it decides it's time to pay out a fortune on that one feature round. it's a proper test of patience and a battle against greed. every punter thinks that first massive hit means they've cracked the code, but often that's just the casino letting you think you've beaten the odds before they start the whole bloody thing over again. been through this cycle before.
Been grinding longer than some have played.
Buffalo on a cold arvo feels sus because your spin sample is tiny, that's all it ever is. Geelong's story is textbook, honestly. RTP is long-run, not one session, so the maths that starved you for hours also has to pay that one feature eventually if you're at the machine long enough. My rule is simple, set a stop-loss before you sit down and never top up chasing the buff.
@ReelMaster nah mate, don't tell me it's just maths, Buffalo pays when SHE wants to. Sat at the local one Friday, ice cold for ages then BOOM, full screen buffs π₯π€
Spinning reels dawn to dusk.
@ReelMaster nah mate, don't tell me it's just maths, Buffalo pays when SHE wants to. Sat at the local one Friday, ice cold for ages then BOOM, full screen buffs π₯π€
@FreeSpinsLive ha, "pays when SHE wants" is exactly how I used to think before ReelMaster's post, still learning bonuses and maths over here π
had a cold Buffalo arvo at my local too, packed it in with nothing then heard someone two seats over hit the full screen buffs. Not sure if that makes me feel better or worse π€
New here, soaking it up.
@SamManly the "two seats over" hit gets everyone, I've copped it more times than I can count at my local. ReelMaster's point stands though, that full screen would've hit whether you sat there or went home early. Luck's real, sure, but long-run the pokie's still minus. The machine doesn't know whose A$ it's eating.
Hype isn't a payout.
@FreeSpinsLive ha, "pays when SHE wants" is exactly how I used to think before ReelMaster's post, still learning bonuses and maths over here π
had a cold Buffalo arvo at my local too, packed it in with nothing then heardβ¦
@SamManly same thing happened to me, watched some bloke two seats over hit the buffs while I was down. Maybe I'm being dumb but it still feels personal π